wantagriff

[si easter]

First Timer. Im currently looking for a griffith 500. Should i go P.A.S or non P.A.S any thoughts please .Si.

[lazyitus]

Mine doesn't have PAS. It doesn't bother me at all.

At speed, it is more true in my opinion.

[si easter]

What about parking etc with all that weight at the front surely its very heavy. Perhaps i should try one ?

[lazyitus]

si easter said:

What about parking etc with all that weight at the front surely its very heavy. Perhaps i should try one ?

Trying one is the best bet, obviously. It is 'relatively' heavy on parking but for me, I bought this car to drive and get a good experience all round. Parking is not a priority so its not an issue for me.

Undoubtedly P.A.S makes things easier at lower speed but Non-PAS makes things better at higher speed.

Will you be driving quickly or slowly?

Edited by lazyitus on Saturday 30th September 17:15

[si easter]

I would"nt like to say

[Ballistic Banana]

Depends how strong you are? I have PAS and its great never driven a Griffith with out but have an S series (similiar weight etc) and I had no problems with that.

Best you try one me thinks.

BB

[GJR]

As lazyitus said, try both first... BUT... if you initially find non-PAS V heavy don't necessarily write it off. My Griffith (non-PAS)is in storage and on the rare occasions I get it out of the garage the steering seems heavy, yet I don't recall it being as heavy when I was driving it on a daily basis.

Never having driven a PAS car I can't compare but I guess what I'm saying is that you quickly get used to it. For me I think I'd go non-PAS every time though, at least then you get a true feeling from the steering.

G

[espresso]

Depends where you have to park it too I reckon.

One of the reasons I got rid of my Elise (no PAS) and got my T350 (with PAS) was because I'm forever having to shuffle my cars around in a tight courtyard and garage - it became a real pain without power.
If you just get in and drive away, no PAS is no problem and I agree that the extra feel is worthwhile.

[toma500]

Dont worry about the none pas cars ,ive had mine nearly 3 years no problems parking etc do have a problem with the other halfs primera though feels much too light after being in the griff , seriously though try them both if you can but buy on condition of car and dont fixate on the pas issue .

[si easter]

Thanks everyone for your input, still very much wanagriff , pas or not .Dont suppose i will be putting it in a multi story car park anyway. Thanks again.

[Painey]

si easter said:

Dont suppose i will be putting it in a multi story car park anyway. Thanks again.

Ah but you'd be missing out there! I used to quite enjoy taking my old Griff into those types of places (oh and it was non PAS btw, never had a problem with it). I remember starting it up once in the Churchill Square shopping centre car park in Brighton. There were some people loading up their boot nearby so I gave it an especially firm stomp on the loud pedal and when it started it up they dropped half their shopping and I set off two car alarms!!!

[mikedavis1]

Test drove both, bought with PAS, three years later now and wouldnt change.

PAS is positive at speed and really makes slow speed stuff like parking a doddle

IMHO

M

[bjwoods]

lazyitus said:

Mine doesn't have PAS. It doesn't bother me at all.

At speed, it is more true in my opinion.

lose the back end. IT is a lot easier to catch with a PAS car (ie assisited quicker rack 2.5 turns?). Doesn't feel any different above 2-3 miles an hour.. had pas car 7 years non pas for 6, PAS is better. BUT if you find a really nice non-pas griff. get it.

B

Edited by bjwoods on Monday 2nd October 08:43

[GJR]

Painey said:

when it started it up they dropped half their shopping and I set off two car alarms!!!

Ahh.. fond memories

What ever you decide si easter, I've a feeling you'll love it.

[apache]

Wifey never had a problem driving ours without PAS. On the plus side it's one (expensive) thing less to go wrong. On the negative it is heavier for low speed stuff, in short don't let it stand in the way of a good purchase.

Edited by apache on Monday 2nd October 10:39

[Dan]

Mine was non PAS, generally it's not a problem, but Mrs Dan did have difficulty with the steering. I did once nearly pull my shoulder out of it's socket when making a late turn on the way back from Le Mans (bloody french road signs).

Having driven mine and Pebbledash's PAS 500 back to back, if I was going buy another and use the car regularly, and wanted Mrs Dan to drive me back from the pub... I'd go for PAS.

But it isn't toooo expensive to get it retro fitted to buy the car you like the most over whether it has power steering, and then if necessary get it fitted.

Cheers Dan

[bluebottle]

bjwoods said:

lazyitus said:

Mine doesn't have PAS. It doesn't bother me at all.

At speed, it is more true in my opinion.

lose the back end. IT is a lot easier to catch with a PAS car (ie assisited quicker rack 2.5 turns?). Doesn't feel any different above 2-3 miles an hour.. had pas car 7 years non pas for 6, PAS is better. BUT if you find a really nice non-pas griff. get it.

B

Edited by bjwoods on Monday 2nd October 08:43

I have also had both and agree with bjwoods comments totally. Retro fitting PAS is not difficult, it'll cost you around £750 for a kit with recon rack from Douglas valley or Bell Hill and its an afternoons work to fit.