944 clutch problem.. Help
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After a 50 mile drive in my 944S and near home, i gave it a fair bit of welly from some traffic lights, the car pulled away ok but then when I got into third and tried to shift into 4th it was very hard to get it into gear. Its now become hard to get into any gear with the engine running, turn the engine off and the car will shift into gear without a problem.
I hope its not, but could I have now trashed the clutch, the car only has 77K and I think this maybe the original clutch.
Any advice, suggestions on what else it could be or check.
Speedyman
I hope its not, but could I have now trashed the clutch, the car only has 77K and I think this maybe the original clutch.
Any advice, suggestions on what else it could be or check.
Speedyman
Is the clutch pedal touching the floor when fully depresed? It could be that the pedal and linkage simply need adjustment, the rod behind the clutch comes off and has a lock nut, it can be undone and a bit more length (ooh err!) can be found by turning it.
The other posibility is that you have a hydraulic leak, either the master or slave could be letting you down.
Have a look on this site www.clarks-garage.com/ under the garage shop manual section, it has some usefull info.
The other posibility is that you have a hydraulic leak, either the master or slave could be letting you down.
Have a look on this site www.clarks-garage.com/ under the garage shop manual section, it has some usefull info.
My S2 has 115,000 on it and the clutch is still OK, I checked it a while ago after finding this bit of info on the net.
1. Place the vehicle on jack stands.
2. Remove the rubber dust cover from the round inspection port (approximately 1" diameter) on the left hand side of the clutch housing. In all likelihood you'll find this cover missing. I don't think I've seen one on any 944 I've ever worked on.
3. Measure the distance from the front end of the inspection port (edge closest to the front of the car) to the edge of the clutch slave cylinder piston.
4. If the measured distance is 34 mm or greater the clutch disc should be replaced. The distance for a new clutch should be approximately 18 mm.
As for the clutch replacement cost.....prepare yourself
Andy.
1. Place the vehicle on jack stands.
2. Remove the rubber dust cover from the round inspection port (approximately 1" diameter) on the left hand side of the clutch housing. In all likelihood you'll find this cover missing. I don't think I've seen one on any 944 I've ever worked on.
3. Measure the distance from the front end of the inspection port (edge closest to the front of the car) to the edge of the clutch slave cylinder piston.
4. If the measured distance is 34 mm or greater the clutch disc should be replaced. The distance for a new clutch should be approximately 18 mm.
As for the clutch replacement cost.....prepare yourself
Andy.
speedyman said:
After a 50 mile drive in my 944S and near home, i gave it a fair bit of welly from some traffic lights, the car pulled away ok but then when I got into third and tried to shift into 4th it was very hard to get it into gear. Its now become hard to get into any gear with the engine running, turn the engine off and the car will shift into gear without a problem.
I hope its not, but could I have now trashed the clutch, the car only has 77K and I think this maybe the original clutch.
Any advice, suggestions on what else it could be or check.
Speedyman
I hope its not, but could I have now trashed the clutch, the car only has 77K and I think this maybe the original clutch.
Any advice, suggestions on what else it could be or check.
Speedyman
clutch is its way out,
1> jack car
2> go to transaxel
3> there should be an inspection plate (rubber)
4> remove
5> put hand in should be able to grab the torque tube, yonk it around if it clanks good chance gcluth is gone
10hrs work, about £400-£600, 3 years ago OEM wanted £1300
968 is cheaper has you dont have to drop the transaxel
Hi
I have a 944 s2, i bought it knowing the clutch was shagged, it was on the original and the car has only done 63,ooomiles, and there were all the classic signs of the clutch having gone.
the original clutch uses a rubber donut, this breaks up over time. i have replaced my clutch with the later metal spring type, this is a great mechanism, with far greater durability than the old rubber type. price wise, they are expensive, my quotes ran from £700 for just the kit, to £800 installed. i went with a company i use reguarly to maintain my car down near salisbury, called MR performance, couple of old guys who really know there stuff. the bill was £1400 but i had my belts done too, and a couple of other smalled things. but make sure you budget accordingly and opt for the later metal spring type clutch replacement. before i had my clutch changed, when the car was in gear moving at low speed and i took my foot off the gas, the car would judder and make a sort of grinding noise on the over run, classic clutch tell tale signs, although i nevber had any problems engaging and disengaging gears. good luck
I have a 944 s2, i bought it knowing the clutch was shagged, it was on the original and the car has only done 63,ooomiles, and there were all the classic signs of the clutch having gone.
the original clutch uses a rubber donut, this breaks up over time. i have replaced my clutch with the later metal spring type, this is a great mechanism, with far greater durability than the old rubber type. price wise, they are expensive, my quotes ran from £700 for just the kit, to £800 installed. i went with a company i use reguarly to maintain my car down near salisbury, called MR performance, couple of old guys who really know there stuff. the bill was £1400 but i had my belts done too, and a couple of other smalled things. but make sure you budget accordingly and opt for the later metal spring type clutch replacement. before i had my clutch changed, when the car was in gear moving at low speed and i took my foot off the gas, the car would judder and make a sort of grinding noise on the over run, classic clutch tell tale signs, although i nevber had any problems engaging and disengaging gears. good luck
Just to let you all know it was the clutch and I'm now £800 lighter.
The rubber centre had broken/split up, the garage also reported the clutch was very worn anyway so would have needed replacement soon.
First major job in six years of ownership, so I'm not complaining, just glad to have the car back. Cheers for all the help and suggestions.
Speedyman
The rubber centre had broken/split up, the garage also reported the clutch was very worn anyway so would have needed replacement soon.
First major job in six years of ownership, so I'm not complaining, just glad to have the car back. Cheers for all the help and suggestions.
Speedyman
Just returned from a long holiday to see the problem is solved - but just in case anyone else has the same problem - often a triangular segment of the rubber damper breaks away and flaps outwards when the engine is running and drags on the outside of the flywheel/pressure plate housing and the drag causes the difficulty getting gears. It returns when the engine is stopped - allowing engagement.
When this happens - often the test suggested - rotating the torque tube by hand - reveals a solid result (tempting you to assume the rubber is OK) but it is just a small piece that has come loose but not broken completely off yet.
Turbo's can have a similar problem caused by drag when the small springs break and tilts the clutch plate.
Baz Hartech
When this happens - often the test suggested - rotating the torque tube by hand - reveals a solid result (tempting you to assume the rubber is OK) but it is just a small piece that has come loose but not broken completely off yet.
Turbo's can have a similar problem caused by drag when the small springs break and tilts the clutch plate.
Baz Hartech
zcacogp said:
77k sounds a bit short for an original clutch on a 944. .
not really. its the age/use thats important. 77K miles on a 12+ year old car may suggest little overall use, or it may suggest heavy use but only to the local shops and back. whereas 150K motorway miles and you may still have half your clutch plates left.
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