Touring cars Vs that red safety car. (Porsche)
Touring cars Vs that red safety car. (Porsche)
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slowly slowly

Original Poster:

2,474 posts

254 months

Saturday 23rd September 2006
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I've put this question here because surely if anybody knows the answer to this one of you lot will.

When ever i watch the British Touring Cars that bright red Porsche safety car usually come out, I was just wondering in a ten lapper with equal drivers would the porsche thrash those Touring cars.

rallycol

58 posts

266 months

Saturday 23rd September 2006
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No

adamt

2,825 posts

282 months

Saturday 23rd September 2006
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I remember seeing touring cars a few years ago, and i think then the red safety car was a 996 GT2.

IMHO it would be very interesting to see which would be quicker...very close i would think.

all the best
adam

DucatiGary

7,765 posts

255 months

Saturday 23rd September 2006
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saftey car at donnington this year was a C2S

would be a close race im sure but if it was a GT2 im confident it would leave them.

bumcrack

977 posts

295 months

Sunday 24th September 2006
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no chance

clubsport

7,415 posts

288 months

Sunday 24th September 2006
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I initially thought no chance, but wonder how close it would actually be if you had Richard Westbrook or Walter Rohl pedalling the C2S?


I appreciate that despite losing out on bhp, the touring cars are running decent set ups and slicks, weather permitting.

roygarth

2,674 posts

278 months

Sunday 24th September 2006
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What is the weight and BHP of a Touring car?

Mannginger

10,274 posts

287 months

Sunday 24th September 2006
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I'd say the touring car would edge it over a standard GT2 and thrape a standard C2

My "evidence" being the following recent times:

Seat Leon 2006 - 49.368
www.btccpages.com/rounds/2006/25_26_27/qual.php

996 GT2 R - 49.3
www.msdpcgb.co.uk/pages/open03/open03_res08.asp

Phil

abarber

1,711 posts

271 months

Sunday 24th September 2006
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Although it may be a different story at Snetterton, rather than Brands Indy..

Mannginger

10,274 posts

287 months

Sunday 24th September 2006
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Good point!

TIGA84

5,596 posts

261 months

Sunday 24th September 2006
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clubsport said:
I initially thought no chance, but wonder how close it would actually be if you had Richard Westbrook or Walter Rohl pedalling the C2S?


I appreciate that despite losing out on bhp, the touring cars are running decent set ups and slicks, weather permitting.


I dont think it would make that much difference TBH, The touring car boys aren't exactly amateurs are they!!

clubsport

7,415 posts

288 months

Sunday 24th September 2006
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Tiga no disrespect meant to touring car driver abilities,,,,,but the point was how close it might be.......it would make a hell of a difference if Herr Rohl was driving the red car instead of me.....thats for sure!

iguana

7,356 posts

290 months

Sunday 24th September 2006
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slowly slowly said:
I've put this question here because surely if anybody knows the answer to this one of you lot will.

When ever i watch the British Touring Cars that bright red Porsche safety car usually come out, I was just wondering in a ten lapper with equal drivers would the porsche thrash those Touring cars.


Touring car would spank the 997, by how much im not sure, guessing an easy 5+ secs a lap, perhaps as high as 10 secs.

clubsport

7,415 posts

288 months

Sunday 24th September 2006
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Not sure what the margin would be Lizard, but I doubt as wide as 10 secs round the Indy.

Consider the touring cars qualified in a range of 49.4 to 52.1 secs, I can get the old 993 tractor round in 55-56 secs (clear run), a decent driver should get the 997S round quicker than me by a few secs.....he would still be pulling over for one of the Reeves boys though!

Andy T

468 posts

258 months

Monday 25th September 2006
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911 would mauled by a touring car. No competition.

lemon yella rs

254 posts

288 months

Monday 25th September 2006
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Plato was doing cosistant low 50's in two of the races and I can't see the C2S in un modded form managing much more than 53's at an optomistic guess so in a 20 lap race Plato would probably just about lap the Porsche by the end imho. Now a carrera cup car doing 47's is another proposition.

chfs911

694 posts

256 months

Monday 25th September 2006
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Gordon Shedden drove my 964 RS around KH in 60secs without trying very hard. I can do consistent 60-61s. Gordon took a GT3 RS around in 58secs. He was flying literally over Dufus.

Touring cars were doing 57-58secs this year.

So unless it is a GT3 RS it is not going to be close to a Touring car

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

244 months

Monday 25th September 2006
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If the 997 was on the sports suspension, LSD, ceramics, power kit, stripped to the metal inside (seats, airbags, stereo, door linings, aircon, toolkit - everything binned) then I would fancy it giving them a run. But without losing 1/4-1/3 of a tonne, not a prayer.

bennno

15,257 posts

299 months

Monday 25th September 2006
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DiscoColin said:
If the 997 was on the sports suspension, LSD, ceramics, power kit, stripped to the metal inside (seats, airbags, stereo, door linings, aircon, toolkit - everything binned) then I would fancy it giving them a run. But without losing 1/4-1/3 of a tonne, not a prayer.


it wouldnt be anywhere near. a touring car may look like your average hatch but they are circa £200-£250 to build with very trick suspension, breaks, tyres, weight distribution

bennno

phib

4,520 posts

289 months

Monday 25th September 2006
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Being a real porsche nut I would love to say that the 911 would win hands down but unfortunatly in the real world any touring car would eat the 911.

To be honest in the past where we have run a mildly tuned subaru wrx against a 997 c2s the wrx would win round a track so I imagine the touring cas are just sitting there waiting for the slow red thing to move over !!!!!

Sory to be negative but unfortunatly its just a fact !!