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l6nex

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356 posts

282 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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Afternoon!

My car went in to have its first ever MOT at the weekend, couple of things I would like some advice on hopefully someone can help!!

Emission's!! the car was all over the place the guy at the MOT station said it looks like a Oxygen sensor is away!! as the oxygen levels were all over the place! is this correct and has anyone else had issues passing this??

also, he said the car smoked for a bit on Idle, I have never really noticed this but he said due to the soot in the exhaust that it looked like the turbos were away?? is there someway I can check if this is true as the car doesn't drive any different at all.

Any help would be much appreciated.

David

adrian w

15,458 posts

257 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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Which car and ECU is it?

Misterx

656 posts

279 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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Mine (GTO3) had no problems with the exhaust readings during the MOT.
Did your car actually pass or fail?

l6nex

Original Poster:

356 posts

282 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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its a 2.5 GTO with the factory power upgrade to 340bhp.

l6nex

Original Poster:

356 posts

282 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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It failed due to the readings being so irregular on the machine it couldn't get a stable reading.

joolski

813 posts

254 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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I've had this problem before.

The last time it was MOT'd I had to take it for a very 'spirited' drive to get the cat nice and hot, then the emissions were spot on.

If you have problems with this, and you are north london give Richard at VeganTune a call. He's a Noble guy and has done all the MOT's on my car.

--Jools

Misterx

656 posts

279 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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I find it helpful (whether with the Noble or anything else) to get the MOT test done at the same time as the service. That way the garage has a vested interest and a responsibility to make sure it passes!

l6nex

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356 posts

282 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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Thanks for your help guys, an oxygen sensor arrived this morning and I have spoken to turbo technics about checking the turbo's, so i'll take it from there.

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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Sounds like the sensor is out. Does your car 'hunt' at idle?

Also, do ensure the car is very warm as part of the test as others have said.

My old 2.5l 340bhp upgrade did pass, but it needed a bit of handholding as above.

J

l6nex

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356 posts

282 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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thanks Joust,

the car does hunt a bit at idle especially when cold, you have to give it a little gas to keep it going.

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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In that case you definatly have a broken sensor and/OR there are leaks around the turbo manifold.

You are probably suffering from loose nuts, so when you replace the lambda sensor ensure you tighten up the nuts both sides of the turbo.

Either will give you that hunting effect - a Noble shouldn't hunt at all on idle, but lots do, and it is usually down to air getting back into the exhaust and sending the lambda sensor crazy.

J

mgbond

6,749 posts

261 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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Maybe worth checking the manifold for cracks at the weld. My 2.5L had this and the car hunted at Idle when cold. Got this done at a service and it all went away. I'm still running original ECU though.

Bondy

falcemob

8,248 posts

265 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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Did the tester just stick it on the machine and test it or rev it for a while to clear it out?

LJM

241 posts

249 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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joust said:
Sounds like the sensor is out. Does your car 'hunt' at idle?

Also, do ensure the car is very warm as part of the test as others have said.

My old 2.5l 340bhp upgrade did pass, but it needed a bit of handholding as above.

J


Sorry to change the subject slightly but what is involved in the factory 340bhp upgrade??

obes

3,298 posts

273 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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LJM said:
joust said:
Sounds like the sensor is out. Does your car 'hunt' at idle?

Also, do ensure the car is very warm as part of the test as others have said.

My old 2.5l 340bhp upgrade did pass, but it needed a bit of handholding as above.

J


Sorry to change the subject slightly but what is involved in the factory 340bhp upgrade??


it was available for 2.5's on MBE, just a mapping job IIRC

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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Mapping and installation and connection of an overboost actuator to control the wastegate on the turbos (the standard turbos just have a fixed wastegate setting).

J

LJM

241 posts

249 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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joust said:
Mapping and installation and connection of an overboost actuator to control the wastegate on the turbos (the standard turbos just have a fixed wastegate setting).

J


Sounds intresting can you remember how much it cost?

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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It was expensive, around £2-3k from memory due to the low numbers of them done.

Not sure what the factory would sell one for today though - worth a ring.

J

LJM

241 posts

249 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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joust said:
It was expensive, around £2-3k from memory due to the low numbers of them done.

Not sure what the factory would sell one for today though - worth a ring.

J


wow that's over £100 per horsepower, did that include the MBE ECU though?? What Boost did the car run then??

Sorry for the questions

Edited by LJM on Monday 11th September 20:41

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Monday 11th September 2006
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No, you need a MBE. If you have a Magnetti then the loom also needed to be changed..

It overboosted to just below 1 bar.

After upgrade


I've got the original with 316bhp around somewhere if you are that interested.

J