sporting fiat club versus TVR's
sporting fiat club versus TVR's
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sumplug

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62 posts

255 months

Sunday 16th July 2006
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hi TVR owners.
i like your cars with their hairy V8's. always loved the sound, but its a fact, they are only good in a straight line. i know that many sporting fiats with their much smaller engines would cream you lot round a circuit. why not contact the chairman of SPORTING FIAT CLUB and ask for a race or two. are you chicken and feel you dont want to be embarrased? his name is MARTIN THOMAS and is always helpful. members are waiting for the challange!!

Link removed, to stop the TVR boys getting over exited!

Edited by Big Al. on Monday 17th July 18:51

HughesieII

12,790 posts

311 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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This should be interesting

Alex

9,978 posts

313 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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I don't know why I'm bothering to reply to this, but...

I presume you are referring to modified Fiats? In which case the claim is a bit pointless, as with enough money, time and effort, you could modify a Fiat Panda to beat a TVR around a circuit.

I owned a Coupe 20VT (nice car), which I believe is the fastest car Fiat have ever produced, and it wouldn't stand a chance against my Griff (or any other TVR) around a circuit.

afrofish

50 posts

247 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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Don't make the mistake of thinking TVR's don't handle, they do!

While TVR's might not handle as well as a 355 or an Elise there are very few cars that can(and Fiats are not regularly regarded as one of the ones that do either).


Std Fiat against std TVR from the same generation = TVR victory

Modified Fiat against Modified TVR (to the same value) = TVR victory

The only time a Fiat could win is against a very old(or unhealthy) TVR or with considderable modifications (IMHO).


You are picking a fight with the big dogs here and you are likely to get bitten!

I look forward to someone taking up your challenge..

Touching Cloth

11,706 posts

268 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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So many variables it is hard to know where to start.

Put a crap driver in one and a good driver in the other and I suspect you will see the good driver win regardless of the make. Also going to depend massively on the circuit surely.

Anyhow, am sure BossCerb or Guillotine (amongst others) would be up for it if the Fiat boys (with something clearly to prove) are picking up the tab.

tuscnick

817 posts

267 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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i like your cars with their hairy V8's. -OUT OF DATE WE NOW DO V8 AND SPEED 6

fiats with their much smaller engines would cream you lot round a circuit. - INTRESTING PROPOSITION

why not contact the chairman of SPORTING FIAT CLUB and ask for a race or two. - I AM NOT BORED

are you chicken and feel you dont want to be embarrased? -NOT AS EMBARRASED AS IF WE WERE DRIVING A FIATS

his name is MARTIN THOMAS and is always helpful - HOW INTRESTING.

members are waiting for the challange!!- MEMBERS- YES THEY ARE

WRITER GOES BACK TO HIS SLOW IN THE CORNERS TVR WITH A CHICKEN COSTUME DREAMING OF OWNING A SPORTING FIAT SO HE CAN BE MATES WITH A VERY HELPFUL GUY CALLED MARTIN - Wake up!!!

Edited by tuscnick on Monday 17th July 13:21

chris watton

22,547 posts

289 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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tuscnick said:

i like your cars with their hairy V8's. -OUT OF DATE WE NOW DO V8 AND SPEED






Yeah man, I do lots of speed!




Sorry , couldn't resist!

Regarding the handling, I'd say that the newer cars are like Elises on steroids!

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

276 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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sumplug said:
hi "fill in choice of manufacturer" owners.
i like your cars with their hairy V8's. always loved the sound, but its a fact, they are only good in a straight line. i know that many sporting "fill in own manufacturer" with their much smaller engines would cream you lot round a circuit. why not contact the chairman of SPORTING "fill in own manufactuter" CLUB and ask for a race or two. are you chicken and feel you dont want to be embarrased? his name is "make up your own anme" and is always helpful. members are waiting for the challange!!
www."fillinownmanufacturerclub.com/

sumplug

Original Poster:

62 posts

255 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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well what a joyful lot you are. you slag other peoples pride and joy off. all i asked if you lot were up to a race. with a similar power to weight or say give you lot more power to weight, it would be an interesting duel. but as usual, i got stupid replies. indeed, the gauntlet has been put down before, and a few TVR owners at one track would not take us on after we posted some times up. and yes, they were modified cars, but only a little.
yes TVR's have 6 cylinders as well, but to say fiats rust infront of you etc is so in the past. its like saying TVR's are so unreliable. or is that still true. friend of mine got rid of his griffith due to it being in the workshop more often then on the road. a 1998 model if i recall. is all this unreliability still around??
any mature adults out there to answer if they want to share a track day??

Touching Cloth

11,706 posts

268 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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I am sure some of us can get our cars running long enough for a bit of fun. But to be honest your post was clearly antagonistic so what do you expect.

If you want to sort something out then by all means do and I am sure you will get some takers from this quarter but to come on and tell us to contact someone else seems a bit odd, a bit like egging on a fight and then taking a huge step back to see what happens.


Edited by Touching Cloth on Monday 17th July 14:07

trackcar

6,453 posts

255 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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For a start you can't time on track days .. that invalidates the organiser's (and your) insurance, you can on test days though but you need a race license for that, so rather narrows the field don't you think?

My best TVR is doing 11.9secs at Santa Pod .. what is your Fiat doing?

We could always wheel our twin turbo TVR race car out for a circuit event if you really wanted to be beaten ..

I really wish they wouldn't allow internet access in school IT lessons

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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I believe there is an invitation class in the Dunlop Tuscan Challenge, so feel free to come out and play...




when he said sporting fiat i though he ment ferrari

dickkark

748 posts

250 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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fiats break down almost as much as renaults,
dont believe me!call a ren or fiat dealer and it be two weeks before they can look at it!

V8Smith

3,510 posts

282 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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Graham said:
I believe there is an invitation class in the Dunlop Tuscan Challenge, so feel free to come out and play...




when he said sporting fiat i though he ment ferrari




Edited by V8Smith on Monday 17th July 14:56

.Mark

11,104 posts

305 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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Got to love them haven't you
Yes I feel sure some of your modified Fiats may well beat some bog standard TVR, but lets face it - and I will be blatantly honest here - when the TVR drivers go home they will be driving TVR'swith passers by looking and waving, and you lot will still be driving dodgy italian rollerskates whose retail value falls as the petrol tank empties and passers by look and point and laugh at you.

As I said to the chav in the chip shop who proudly told me his mate (why is it always their mates ) has spent £10k on rebuilding his golf engine and it will 'Cream' my TVR; "Yes my friend I'm sure it will, but it will still have a VW badge on it" - much to the delight of his other customers

chassis 33

6,194 posts

311 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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Graham said:
I believe there is an invitation class in the Dunlop Tuscan Challenge, so feel free to come out and play...


Let me at 'em let me at 'em; I want to luuuurve them....oh please sir can I....

Regards
Iain

ETA
Oh...and how many "sporting" fiats (does that mean good loosers?) hold lap records...only last weekend did Tim Hood's Sagaris V8 get the outright lap record of the Rockingham Sportscar circuit in a 1:08.326. By all means come and play with us in the Tuscan Challenge, we need something to keep the rookies entertained! Has anyone else got an image of a Fiat 500 flat out round the turn 4 banking at all of 65mph?



Edited by chassis 33 on Monday 17th July 15:07

lazyitus

19,931 posts

295 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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sumplug said:
hi TVR owners.
i like your cars with their hairy V8's. always loved the sound, but its a fact, they are only good in a straight line. i know that many sporting fiats with their much smaller engines would cream you lot round a circuit. why not contact the chairman of SPORTING FIAT CLUB and ask for a race or two. are you chicken and feel you dont want to be embarrased? his name is MARTIN THOMAS and is always helpful. members are waiting for the challange!!
www.sportingfiatsclub.com/






I suppose their resale value is better too ?

The inclusion of a wink on your post is not sufficient enough to post such dross. Look up the word 'Shite' in any modern dictionary and you'll find a picture of a Fiat.

RUSSELLM

6,002 posts

276 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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I was once the proud owner of a Panda 750L, it was red with a white stripe down the middle, a bit like a dodge Viper...unfortunately that's where the comparison ends, did have a very quiet engine though

In my many "days" of ownership, six if memory serves me right, I can't once remember myself telling a sports car owner and I'm counting Ford Capri owners in this, that I would either "Cream" them or call them "chicken".

Judging by your claims, Fiat's have obviously moved on a bit since my ownership, but if your expecting adult responses, surely your original post could have been a tad less childish ?

Just my four penneth

jsr

1,155 posts

279 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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sumplug said:
i know that many sporting fiats with their much smaller engines would cream you lot round a circuit


I suppose you are referring to the Fiat Cinquecento Sporting or the Fiat Punto Sporting

FourWheelDrift

92,301 posts

313 months

Monday 17th July 2006
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sumplug said:
hi TVR owners. i like your cars with their hairy V8's. always loved the sound, but its a fact, they are only good in a straight line. i know that many sporting fiats with their much smaller engines would cream you lot round a circuit.


sumplug said:
well what a joyful lot you are. you slag other peoples pride and joy off.


Seems you started it my friend. What would you expect when starting your post saying that. Plus - you said "Fact, they are only good in a straight line?" where did you get that "fact" from? The fact fairy?

Put a standard non-modified Fiat up against a standard non-modified TVR and you will not see where they went, put a modified Fiat up against a modified TVR and you won't see where they have been.

Please do not issue silly challenges it's not big and it's not clever.
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