Rover vs AJP
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rmaurer

Original Poster:

251 posts

299 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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Here's a quick video of LAFR's Chimaera and my Cerb, both with sports exhausts.
Turn the volume up - which do you prefer?

Rover vs AJP

and a quick video guide to Chimaera roof removal (sorry mate)

bebee

4,724 posts

254 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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I'm surprised at how high the Cerby sounds, reminds me of the Triumph Vitesse Mk2 but with more grunt. Love the sound though and I like the production of the Video. Nice one! Both Tiv's look fabulous, but I'm afraid the Rover lump wins it for me.

Bebee

daver

1,209 posts

313 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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I thought that before I had a Cerb.

Come off the gas sharpish in any of the first 3 gears* though and the cracks and pops will have you laughing your silly head off. You'll never want anything else. Promise.

* Don't do this when passing horses!

ray_von

3,039 posts

281 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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The Volvo XC90

im

34,302 posts

246 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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rmaurer said:

...and a quick video guide to Chimaera roof removal


Its very good but those amphetamines will kill you eventually....

Seriously though, where's your spare tyre? Didn't see it in the video.

wedgie

444 posts

292 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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im said:
Seriously though, where's your spare tyre?

And you're a Chim owner???

But back on subject, though the AJP is nice and rorty, the RV8 does it for me.

>> Edited by wedgie on Friday 5th May 18:11

Sharky500

413 posts

258 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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Wow! Rover sounds much more bassy and rumbly - I prefer it. sounds like the Panoz Le Mans cars.

AJP is certainly appealing - harder edged, more highly-strung....

Is the RV8 a simple straight-thr pipe conversion?

MisterT

326 posts

255 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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Well it has to be the RV8 for me too, it just sounds so fantastic with the sports exhaust .

Curiously, (expecting howls of derision from Cerbie owners here! ) the Cerb sounds like a high performance four to my ear. Dont get me wrong its sounds great but not like a V8, is it something to do with the crank configuration? Any techie gurus out there have an explanation?

Sharky500

413 posts

258 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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MisterT said:

Curiously, (expecting howls of derision from Cerbie owners here! ) the Cerb sounds like a high performance four to my ear. Dont get me wrong its sounds great but not like a V8, is it something to do with the crank configuration? Any techie gurus out there have an explanation?


You are spot on - the flat-plane crank makes the engine behave as if it were a pair of in-line fours strapped together. However, the cross-plane crank in the RV8, effectively makes it behave like 4 v-twins. It is this, combined with the firing order, that gives the "chugga-chugga" soundtrack of the RV8. This was the explanation from Jeff Daniels in Evo Mag a while back.

gd

62 posts

295 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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bloody hell, now you've gone and done it. having had an 80 month 'sabatical' from TVR ownership, i've convinced myself that it makes sense to hold off just a few more months longer (trust me, it really does make sense!!). i see stuff liken this and i dive straight into the classifieds.
you're irresponsible idiots......... well done

>> Edited by gd on Friday 5th May 20:08

Woolly

643 posts

248 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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Agree with gd. Very nice clip.

Both are fantastic but the RV8 just shades it. Do another with some pops and bangs from the Cerb included (yes please) and it will probably snatch it though.

Well done.

grahamw48

9,944 posts

267 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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Both sound lovely, but a big Wedge will sound even better.

www.pistonheadstv.com/videos/776.AVI

(Rover V8 of course)

>> Edited by grahamw48 on Friday 5th May 22:13

pwd95

8,457 posts

267 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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grahamw48 said:
Both sound lovely, but a big Wedge will sound even better.

www.pistonheadstv.com/videos/776.AVI

(Rover V8 of course)

>> Edited by grahamw48 on Friday 5th May 22:13

That sounds
Mine's got even more of a howling bansheee sound
When I get it back I'll do a vid
Edited to say: been for a blast in a 4.5 lightweight Cerb (thanks Rob).........'kinell....thought I'd travelled through time. But the Wedge wins the sound battle every time for me

>> Edited by pwd95 on Friday 5th May 22:50

HarryW

16,028 posts

298 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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Can I throw a Speed6 in drowning out an RV8 www.pistonheads.tv/clip336

grahamw48

9,944 posts

267 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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If only I could have edited Pistolar's old 5 litre Wedge in, from the BBWF 'how loud is your Wedge?' Vid.
That was something else!

PLEASE do a vid' of yours though.

PH TV is looking a bit threadbare right now anyway.

Bob the Planner

4,695 posts

298 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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At low revs its definately the RV8 for me. At higher revs (6-7k) the SP6 sounds so much better. The AJP V8 is sort of somewhere in between. Of the V8s the RV8 does it for me

grahamw48

9,944 posts

267 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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HarryW said:
Can I throw a Speed6 in drowning out an RV8 www.pistonheads.tv/clip336


Hmm...the Tuscan did sound beautiful, but what a quiet V8 !

No need for 'sports' exhausts or de-cats on our Wedges of course, just raw hooligan noise.

rmaurer

Original Poster:

251 posts

299 months

Friday 5th May 2006
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Bob the Planner said:
At low revs its definately the RV8 for me. At higher revs (6-7k) the SP6 sounds so much better. The AJP V8 is sort of somewhere in between. Of the V8s the RV8 does it for me


Wow, wasn't expecting to have to defend the AJP8 this much! Must admit that in the clip I was short shifting at around 5.5k and wasn't able to use full throttle due to an annoying misfire (which I'm still trying to cure...) I'll have to do a rerun when it's back on song, and include some more machine gun/artillery pops and bangs. Lawrence's (LAFR) Chimaera has a Dave Batty modified exhaust, not sure on the exact mods but it does sound good! The Cerb at full attack when it hits 5k rpm is just awesome though, the dyno shows mine gains around 65-70 bhp between 5-5.5k and the sound is like 2 VTECs screaming in synchronous pleasure...

Must admit that the Wedges sounds good though, I think it was GavinR who took me for a spin round Folembray a couple of years ago in his and the sound was awesome, much more bassy/aggressive than my old Chimaera...

jonnylayze

1,640 posts

255 months

Saturday 6th May 2006
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Sharky500 said:
Wow! Rover sounds much more bassy and rumbly - I prefer it. sounds like the Panoz Le Mans cars.

AJP is certainly appealing - harder edged, more highly-strung....

Is the RV8 a simple straight-thr pipe conversion?


you think that sounds bass and rumbly? - you need a 2.9 S2- to TimmyArt's general chagrin he's had to concede that the noise fo the S2 is harder edged and more 'can-am' than the Chim - the performance though..... well, that's another matter

pblake

399 posts

251 months

Saturday 6th May 2006
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Its got to be the RV8. The low rev rumble the rise in volume as it pulls away and the pops and bangs are on tap if you want them on over run.
You can't beat a lazy V8.