need some new shocks......

need some new shocks......

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nutta29

Original Poster:

234 posts

224 months

Tuesday 18th April 2006
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What do people recommend? GAZ, Koni, Spax, GMAX?? any others that have given good feedback?


cheers,

adam

Extra 300 Driver

5,281 posts

252 months

Tuesday 18th April 2006
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Avoid Koni.

Spax are good, ask Cooperman

I have GAZ shocks, seem very good but only used them for 400 miles.

Pat H

8,058 posts

262 months

Tuesday 18th April 2006
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I'd buy Spax for a Mini.

Their telescopic dampers have been in production forever and are a simple and pretty reliable unit.

They even sell shorter units for Minis that have been drastically lowered.

AVO dampers were born out of the ashes of the old Spax production facility (was it on the Isle of Wight?) and were essentially the same design, so are probably a good option.

Unless their struts have improved of late, however, the telescopic dampers are the only Spax product I'd spend money on.





cooperman

4,428 posts

256 months

Tuesday 18th April 2006
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I've used SPAX on my rally Minis for the past 11 years and never had one fail (yet!). I have only changed them to ensure reliability and my last set, after 15 hard rallies, are still giving mgreat service on a road going Mini. However, I've had no success with SPAX struts on my Rover rally car and the first (and only) set lasted 2 hours on their first rally before they leaked fluid.
Personally I am no fan of KONI as they are difficult to adjust and ae soft on bump ans stiff on rebound which is OK for racing but not so good on the road or rally. I believe the AVO's are good. Bilstein do Mini dampers, but for road use they are a bit harsh and noisy and not adjustable, but they are very strong.
Mini Spares do SPAX at a sensible price, but you could ask Rich (1071guru) for his opinion about current 'best buys' as he works at Mini Spares in Harrogate.
I hope this helps

Wildfire

9,821 posts

258 months

Wednesday 19th April 2006
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Personally I preferred the ride of my Konis, but I suspect I have the settings too hard on my SPAX. But as everyone says they are a complete pain to adjust. Go for SPAX.

miniman

25,997 posts

268 months

Wednesday 19th April 2006
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I'm about to strip a full set of lowered adjustable Spax off a car - only done about 500 miles. Open to sensible offers before I eBay them.

nutta29

Original Poster:

234 posts

224 months

miniman

25,997 posts

268 months

Wednesday 19th April 2006
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Yep, that's the ones. The lowered version - comes in at £160 inc VAT from Mini Sport. Yours for £80 if you want 'em (and can wait a little while for me to get them off the car).

nutta29

Original Poster:

234 posts

224 months

Wednesday 19th April 2006
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80 quid for all 4 shocks yeh?
yeh, im quite keen for that :-) thats ok about the wait, i need to get paid first anyway!!

miniman

25,997 posts

268 months

Wednesday 19th April 2006
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Fine, drop me an email via my profile. I'll let you know when they're off the car and we can make arrangements.

cooperman

4,428 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th April 2006
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That's a nice deal there.
Don't set them too hard. The Mini suspension needs to work and not have the dampers do too much. I've driven so many Minis with the dampers set too hard. When you hit bumps the wheels don't stay in good contact with the road and the road holding suffers as a result. Nice compliant suspension is what you need for the road.

mr dann

7,609 posts

241 months

Wednesday 19th April 2006
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Huddersfield do the cheapest Spax and stuff by far Forget ££££sport or ££££spares!

Pat H

8,058 posts

262 months

Wednesday 19th April 2006
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cooperman said:
However, I've had no success with SPAX struts on my Rover rally car and the first (and only) set lasted 2 hours on their first rally before they leaked fluid.

The piston rods used to be made out of Turkish steel on the top adjustable struts, which was too soft.

It would pick up dings and scratches from careless spannering or from road debris if the rod is exposed.

This would tear the seals and leaks would soon follow.

For some reason, the telescopic dampers were far more robust.

cooperman

4,428 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th April 2006
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Those struts are probably fine for a road car. However, the bending loads a McPherson strut applies to the piston in addition to the concentric loads does the seals/guides in and a really good unit is necessary for rough road rallies. I now use KYB's with springs up-rated from 120 lbs/in to 220 lbs/in which gives the Rover a good compliant suspension and keeps the wheels on the tracks. The SPAX on the rear of the Rover failed quite quickly as well and now I have KYB's. But on a Mini SPAX have always been great and I've no complaints.