Goldeneye: Can a Tank Oversteer???

Goldeneye: Can a Tank Oversteer???

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williamp

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19,562 posts

280 months

Tuesday 7th January 2003
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Well, can a tank oversteer???

And, for that matter does anyone know the most rideculous (sp?) vehicle that can oversteer???


P.S. Great chase at the start: DB5 v 355. i always know the Aston would win...

alan_driver

1,281 posts

264 months

Tuesday 7th January 2003
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it could slide! But i dont think it would be classed as oversteer ??? Interesting, Truck racers manage to get oversteer dont they?

andytk

1,553 posts

273 months

Tuesday 7th January 2003
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There was a program on TV recently about the bond gadgets/stunts and apparently that was one of the stunts that was done without special effects. ie. they simply bought an old Russian tank dolled it up to look like a more modern russian tank and then,um, tanked about in it, so to speak.

What you see on the screen was what they really did (with the exception of the bit where he piles through the building)

So there you go, you learn a new thing everyday.

Andy

Graham.J

5,420 posts

266 months

Tuesday 7th January 2003
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Technically a tank can't oversteer, it can point turn (lock's one track whilst other one moves or both move in opposite direction) - equivalent of donuts.

Or it could slide, but as a tank can only steer by using a greater speed on one track to the other, then no it can't oversteer.

Edited to remove jibbering rubbish

>> Edited by Graham.J on Tuesday 7th January 22:07

daydreamer

1,409 posts

264 months

Tuesday 7th January 2003
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andytk said: There was a program on TV recently about the bond gadgets/stunts and apparently that was one of the stunts that was done without special effects. ie. they simply bought an old Russian tank dolled it up to look like a more modern russian tank and then,um, tanked about in it, so to speak.

What you see on the screen was what they really did (with the exception of the bit where he piles through the building)

So there you go, you learn a new thing everyday.

Andy



Saw this too Andy - they actually did it

robp

5,785 posts

271 months

Tuesday 7th January 2003
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If you could have either on your drive which would it be...?

355 or Aston?

355 for myself!

ErnestM

11,621 posts

274 months

Tuesday 7th January 2003
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robp said: If you could have either on your drive which would it be...?

355 or Aston?

355 for myself!


Aston with the 355 driver in the Passenger's seat (Xenia Onatop )

ErnestM

peas_star

291 posts

282 months

Tuesday 7th January 2003
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i love this site - where else would you find such a cool conversation and such fasinating facts!!!

dave marett

68 posts

270 months

Tuesday 7th January 2003
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What you see on the screen was what they really did (with the exception of the bit where he piles through the building)

Andy


There's been loads of Bond stuff on the TV lately - (cynic mode on) maybe something to do with plugging the latest film, but one thing a special fx bloke on one of the programmes said was all the bond stunts are "really" done, not computer graphics or whatever -fair play to them! -shame they put an american V8 in that Aston in the new ice chase though

Miraz

210 posts

273 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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A rear engined tank is very tail heavy - if it was spun round hard enough it's not impossible that the engine would cause some apparent oversteer.

Note the use apparent, cause tanks don't really have steering at all...

Miraz

Podie

46,645 posts

282 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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dave marett said: shame they put an american V8 in that Aston in the new ice chase though




Very common trick actually... you'd be surprised at the number of stunt cars that aren't as the production version... it's just that the Bond films tend to get more publicity for this sort of thing.

TheLemming

4,319 posts

272 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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IIRC most tank engines are in the back, along with the fuel tanks.

Then again, I have no idea about the weight distribution, as the front glacis plate carries one hell of a lot of armour...

If there is more weight at the back than at the front, surely a tank would appear to oversteer when hooning around?


NikB

1,834 posts

272 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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Yep, they actually drove that scene, the nutter stunt driver that did it was on TV before XMAS.

One of my pilot friends reckons that he has under steered a 737 into a parking bay in icey conditions!!!

That effect they did flipping the Aston over in the new film was great - all the axles bucled and it looked like a clown car driving down the road!!!

Nik

incorrigible

13,668 posts

268 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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The Prague tank stunk was actually done on the streets of the city, but they had to put down half inch steel plate on all the roads they used. Probably a factor in the slidyness of the tank

just guessing

gtir

24,741 posts

273 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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Yep. they filmed the actual action-smashing scenes in Hertfordshire, the old Rolls Royce factory in Leavesden near watford I think.

Mr E

22,127 posts

266 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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If Bond was driving it, it could probably fly if required.....

Great, great chase.......

Nevin

2,999 posts

268 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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All the Bond stunts are actually done and not generated by computer?!?!?

Apart from that stupid parasailing/kite surfing on in the latest film then.

zefarelly

229 posts

264 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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the V8 was used to give space for the 4 wheel drive transmission, guns and gadgets

it drives like a tank . . . . unfortunately I havent had the displeasure . . . .but I know a man who has!

ledger

1,063 posts

290 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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with all the Bond related programs on recently including the "10 best stunts" I can't believe that the car jump in the man with the golden gun was not featured. The one where he jumps a river when persuing scaramanger (sp?) and does a sort of barrel role, that is my all time top car stunt

incorrigible

13,668 posts

268 months

Wednesday 8th January 2003
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That one also comes with "worst sound effect"