350+bhp std Griff
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jellison

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12,803 posts

306 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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Does this do anyone any favours - buyers at least, but really everyone that is into these cars - get people thinking they do have these power numbers!!

Sounds Fantastic - seller not a PHer it seems well not linked to a Profile even upfor a part ex with a TT!!

350+ BHP - nothing apart from a Mark Adams chip job (so what) on the ancient Lucus ECU! big deal - we all know the make 245 - 280(absolute max)bhp

Christ if they did make these number there woul be alot of happy campers and we would all drive then and there would have never been a need for a Tuscan!!

www.pistonheads.com/sales/59697.htm

Know what mate shave spent to get serious power over a std 500 this just winds me up - just advertise it as - std - Perfect with chip!

richb

56,262 posts

313 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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Well, that told him...

jellison

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12,803 posts

306 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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Bloody right! Rich - did you get mail on the cage stuff?

>> Edited by jellison on Friday 17th February 16:19

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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The numbers are pretty meaningless, he's got just as much right to quote the factory 340 bhp plus a small bit for the extra chip as you have to quote the figures that you're quoting from the rolling roads that most people use. Neither of them mean anything at all unless you are comparing like with like. All he's really saying is 'probably a little bit more power than standard'. And that's fair enough as far as I can see.

mikedavis1

202 posts

267 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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Not only is the HP wrong he's got the best colour wrong too!

We all know it should be pearl blue not Imperial blue

M.

225

1,331 posts

255 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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Lets not forget he is trying to sell the thing so cut him some slack.

Anyhoo Imperial blue TVRs are at least 100bhp more powerful than "normal" ones anyway...

crazycraig

485 posts

260 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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And I don't think he should be saying
said:
last 54k major service at 50000miles
when the 54k is only a 6k service.

number 7

4,113 posts

291 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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Surely the seller is on rather dangerous ground (unless he has data to back the claim) - a buyer may proceed on the basis of the claim, only to discover that it's perhaps not true by carrying out a rr check of his own. Now I know that all rr figures will vary, and they won't be the same as an engine dyno, but we're not talking small differences here. Without getting too deeply into how much a 500 does produce, surely that figure is at least 50bhp ott.

7.

topsparks

1,202 posts

276 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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mikedavis1 said:
Not only is the HP wrong he's got the best colour wrong too!

We all know it should be pearl blue not Imperial blue

M.




Well said Mike,I thought all pearl blue Griffs were 400 BHP anyway.........!

trackcar

6,453 posts

255 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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[michael winner] calm down dear, it's only an advert [/michael winner]

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

288 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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number 7 said:
Surely the seller is on rather dangerous ground (unless he has data to back the claim) - a buyer may proceed on the basis of the claim, only to discover that it's perhaps not true by carrying out a rr check of his own. Now I know that all rr figures will vary, and they won't be the same as an engine dyno, but we're not talking small differences here. Without getting too deeply into how much a 500 does produce, surely that figure is at least 50bhp ott.

7.


Not if he was told the chip should add about 10bhp to the car, after all he is only quoting factory figures.

number 7

4,113 posts

291 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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trackcar said:
[michael winner] calm down dear, it's only an advert [/michael winner]


trouble is, just because WE all know that TVR's power claims were occasionally optimistic, there are lots of people who believe what they read, whether it's TVR advertising or a dealer/private ad. Misdescribing things is not really on. Might just as well call it a 6.0L Wildcat if the ad means nothing

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rev-erend

21,619 posts

313 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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I like the bit where he says no dreamers..

groucho

12,134 posts

275 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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If he's selling it on here, why mention BHP at all? Most people on here are savvy to TVR horsepower, hence this thread.

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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number 7 said:
Misdescribing things is not really on. Might just as well call it a 6.0L Wildcat if the ad means nothing

7.


Saying it has a Wildcat engine when it doesn't is a lie.

Saying the engine puts out 350 bhp may or may not be accurate, depending how you measure it. I bet it would be possible to find a way to measure it that did show 350 bhp if you wanted to. Point is that the absolute number is meaningless in isolation, and all it means in this case is that it has very slightly more power than standard. Now if it turned out NOT to have a MA chip then you would have every right to get upset.

trackcar

6,453 posts

255 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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How many buyers do you think he'd get if he advertised it as 260bhp when the sales blurb says 340? We all know what the seller means, Peter describes it perfectly ..

old64er

1,388 posts

267 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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Perhaps it was measured back at Blackpool?



ads

1,369 posts

286 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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225 said:
Lets not forget he is trying to sell the thing so cut him some slack.

Anyhoo Imperial blue TVRs are at least 100bhp more powerful than "normal" ones anyway...


Totally agree, Imperial blue ones are the fastest, but I am biased!

ads

1,369 posts

286 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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225 said:
Lets not forget he is trying to sell the thing so cut him some slack.

Anyhoo Imperial blue TVRs are at least 100bhp more powerful than "normal" ones anyway...


Totally agree, Imperial blue ones are the fastest, but I am biased!

mongoose

4,360 posts

284 months

Friday 17th February 2006
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crazycraig said:
And I don't think he should be saying
said:
last 54k major service at 50000miles
when the 54k is only a 6k service.
Nothing stopping you having a major service every time-mine does