Challenger Disaster - 20 Years Today
Challenger Disaster - 20 Years Today
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Eric Mc

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125,821 posts

296 months

Saturday 28th January 2006
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As the title says - hard to believe it's that long ago now.

F.M

5,816 posts

251 months

Saturday 28th January 2006
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What was the problem that caused it to blow?..Seals in the rocket/fuel tank..?

Trooper2

6,676 posts

262 months

Saturday 28th January 2006
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I watched the launch live on T.V. Needless to say I was shocked when it turned into a fireball. It took Mission Control what seemed a couple of minutes to figure out what happened. Very saddening for me.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

315 months

Saturday 28th January 2006
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20 years? Doesn't seem like it.

>> Edited by jmorgan on Saturday 28th January 08:58

Eric Mc

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Saturday 28th January 2006
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It was a leaking joint between one of the segments of the Solid Rocket Booster (SRB)that caused the accident. White hot gasses jetted out of the gap and melted one of the struts attaching the SRBs to the big External Tank (ET). Once the strut had melted through, the thrusting SRB pivoted around the top attachement point and drove into the ET, puncturing it. Immediately, the tank collapsed and the contents ignited. The force of the "explosion" (it was more of a rapid fuel burn rather than blast) forced the Orbiter off the stack. Aerodynamic loads then caused the Orbiter to break up.

Splodge S4

1,519 posts

268 months

Saturday 28th January 2006
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& to think the reports now say the crew were 'probably' still alive after the explosion, god bless them....

Eric Mc

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Saturday 28th January 2006
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I think the reports thought that right from the beginning.

Don

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315 months

Saturday 28th January 2006
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Splodge S4 said:
& to think the reports now say the crew were 'probably' still alive after the explosion, god bless them....


May they rest in peace.

eccles

14,404 posts

253 months

Saturday 28th January 2006
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from memory, they rekoned the crew were alive until they hit the sea.

F.M

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251 months

Saturday 28th January 2006
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AMEN.

chassis 33

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313 months

Saturday 28th January 2006
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Trooper2 said:
It took Mission Control what seemed a couple of minutes to figure out what happened. Very saddening for me.


I don't know why, engineers from Morton-Thiokol (the company who made the rocket) told them not to launch becasue there was a good chance the low overnight temperatures (23oF) had caused the seals to go brittle and crack. Challenger was the coldest launch of a space shuttle, 38oF, compared to the previous lowest 53oF. However M-T came under pressure to declare the shuttle safe for launch and management over-ruled the engineers.

From the initial inception of the Solid Fuel Rocket, there were fears of the safety of a segmented design, it estimated the risk of a catastrophic failure of the solid rocket boosters at 1 in 35.

I pure case of ego and money coming infront of human life.

Regards
Iain

lazyitus

19,931 posts

297 months

Saturday 28th January 2006
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Eric Mc said:
As the title says - hard to believe it's that long ago now.


20 years

Unbelievable. I was on a skiing trip with school at the time. Very sad but a natural part of evolution unfortunately.

yertis

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297 months

Saturday 28th January 2006
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chassis 33 said:
pure case of ego and money coming infront of human life.

Regards
Iain



Not entirely pure - there was/is a military aspect to shuttle operations and at the time the Cold War was still in one of its more tense phases. There may well have been pressures to launch additional to the ego/money reasons.

Eric Mc

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Saturday 28th January 2006
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The segmented design of the boosters was more to do with the location of the manufacturer (Utah) and the logistics of transporting the boosters to Cape Canaveral.

D_Mike

5,301 posts

271 months

Saturday 28th January 2006
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It's very sad, and we shouldn't forget it, but many more people will die in the exploration of space. It's very strange that there is this "zero risk" attitude now.

We idolise and respect explorers who discovered America, Australia, explored unknown lands, got to the south and north poles, climbed everest etc. Many people died trying to achieve these goals, but were they worth it? I think so.

Travelling to the moon now is the current equivalent of crossing the atlantic in the 1500s... why can't we do it?

Exploration is a good thing, but it's risky. The risks are worth taking in my opinion.

srebbe64

13,021 posts

268 months

Saturday 28th January 2006
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Blimey - where have the last 20 years gone!

Another tragedy is that NASA are still using a small firework strapped to two large fireworks in the year 2006. I bet no one would have predicted that when the shuttle was being designed in the 1970's.

CatherineJ

9,586 posts

274 months

Saturday 28th January 2006
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How time has flown. I remember watching that on Newsround when I came in from school, unbelievable really and so sad that there has been 2 tragedies in the last twenty years.

tinman0

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271 months

Saturday 28th January 2006
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eccles said:
from memory, they rekoned the crew were alive until they hit the sea.


i'm sure i read that they would of died quite quickly from the shockwave from the booster. a bit like when a suicide bomber lets of a bomb in a confined area and perfectly healthy looking people die because their insides are jellified.

very sad day though for nasa. cant believe its 20 years either.

Parrot of Doom

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265 months

Saturday 28th January 2006
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CatherineJ said:
How time has flown. I remember watching that on Newsround when I came in from school, unbelievable really and so sad that there has been 2 tragedies in the last twenty years.



Thats exactly my memory. John Craven speaking about it on the telly, and me stood there in the front room not quite believing what I was watching.

Eric Mc

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Saturday 28th January 2006
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There was no shockwave from the booster because the boosters (there are two SRBs) did not explode. All that happened was that the ET collapsed which basically dumped the contents which then rapidly combusted. This threw the Orbitor outwards and flat on to the airstream. The Shuttle's structure could not cope with the sudden aerodynamic loads placed on it and it broke up into large chunks.

There were a couple of minor explosions in the nose area of the Orbiter due to the contents of the atitude thrusters igniting but there was never a huge "bang" type event.

After a few minutes of free flight, the Range Safety Officer deliberately exploded the two SRBs.