Do the Jews really have the influence?
Do the Jews really have the influence?
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police state

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4,379 posts

250 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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According to Abu Hamza, they do...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4643720.stm

I think he raises some interesting points which I wouldn't entirely disagree with, such as 'The control of Money' and 'External Zionist Influence'.

DieselJohn

2,114 posts

286 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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article said:
I am not talking about sausages on camp fires," Mr Perry added.


Do you think that was intentional?

>> Edited by DieselJohn on Tuesday 24th January 15:50

Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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police state said:
According to Abu Hamza, they do...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4643720.stm

I think he raises some interesting points which I wouldn't entirely disagree with, such as 'The control of Money' and 'External Zionist Influence'.

IT's just as much of a load of bollox as it was in the thirties.Blaming the Jews is for losers who can't take responsibility for their own failings.

Hilts

4,684 posts

312 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Well maybe he has some points.




Jewish men were more likely than men from any other religion to work in the banking, finance and insurance industry. Around a third of Jewish men worked in this sector.

I always remember somethig that s8 grn said about jew$ having strong influence in aspects of US administration, lemme see if I can dig up the post. 968 commented that it was disturbing.




>> Edited by Hilts on Tuesday 24th January 16:00

Jaglover

46,832 posts

265 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Zod said:
police state said:
According to Abu Hamza, they do...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4643720.stm

I think he raises some interesting points which I wouldn't entirely disagree with, such as 'The control of Money' and 'External Zionist Influence'.

IT's just as much of a load of bollox as it was in the thirties.Blaming the Jews is for losers who can't take responsibility for their own failings.


Yep

Anti-Semitism is alive and well. It manifests itself more now as being Anti Israel though.


>> Edited by Jaglover on Tuesday 24th January 16:00

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

291 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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DieselJohn said:
article said:
I am not talking about sausages on camp fires," Mr Perry added.


Do you think that was intentional?

>> Edited by DieselJohn on Tuesday 24th January 15:50


Keyboard/Coffee moment!

Zod said:


IT's just as much of a load of bollox as it was in the thirties.Blaming the Jews is for losers who can't take responsibility for their own failings.


Are you of the Jewish persuasion perchance?????

The Jews, like Christians and other faiths are not without blood on their hands.

jimbeaux

33,791 posts

261 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Hilts said:
Well maybe he has some points.




Jewish men were more likely than men from any other religion to work in the banking, finance and insurance industry. Around a third of Jewish men worked in this sector.

I always remember somethig that s8 grn said about jew$ having strong influence in aspects of US administration, lemme see if I can dig up the post. 968 commented that it was disturbing.




>> Edited by Hilts on Tuesday 24th January 16:00

Here is my point; We can say that Jews are more likely to be in Banking, and finance(and it's true); yet to say blacks are more likley to excell at track & field or basketball is deemed racist. Why are these comments on Jews not labled racist? This was off topic and I apologize...not trying to hijack

r988

7,498 posts

259 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Mainly because the Jews emphasized literacy and account for many generations before most other people, most of the christians and muslims and so on used them as accounts way back when, and since silly religious laws didn't allow interest to be charged to another person of the same religion (Christianity and Islam) then they cleverly circumvented this 'rule' by using Jews as bankers.

police state

Original Poster:

4,379 posts

250 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Zod said:
police state said:
According to Abu Hamza, they do...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4643720.stm

I think he raises some interesting points which I wouldn't entirely disagree with, such as 'The control of Money' and 'External Zionist Influence'.

IT's just as much of a load of bollox as it was in the thirties.Blaming the Jews is for losers who can't take responsibility for their own failings.


Unfortunately Zod, the figures (for the 30's) don't exactly support your comments. The reality was that they did indeed wield a far greater influence than their numbers actually warranted.

TheLemming

4,319 posts

295 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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There is a "jewish" influence in the media and government policy.

*Pause for effect*

In exactly the same way that there is a Muslim influence, a gay influence, a "whatever gruop you pick" influence etc.

These influences are going to vary in effectiveness, there arent many "direct action" jewish groups that would compare to "outrage" for example. There are also the personal biases of everyone in government and media.

At the end of the day these probably cancel each other out and the message that reaches through the news media on the whole is whatever a few conglomerates want it to be.

Forget that lot, the most important influences on policy and media are likely to be a couple of government advisors, half a dozen newspaper editors and the directors of a couple of media companies.

Do "The Jews" have an influence? Sure they do. However I would put it to you that there is no "The Jews" in the same way there is no "The whites". Its not a conspiracy

Jaglover

46,832 posts

265 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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r988 said:
Mainly because the Jews emphasized literacy and account for many generations before most other people, most of the christians and muslims and so on used them as accounts way back when, and since silly religious laws didn't allow interest to be charged to another person of the same religion (Christianity and Islam) then they cleverly circumvented this 'rule' by using Jews as bankers.


Yep, that's it , though no doubt someone will tell us it's because of their human sacrifices of Christian girls and poisoning of the Gentiles wells.

Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Tyre Smoke said:
DieselJohn said:
article said:
I am not talking about sausages on camp fires," Mr Perry added.


Do you think that was intentional?

>> Edited by DieselJohn on Tuesday 24th January 15:50


Keyboard/Coffee moment!

Zod said:


IT's just as much of a load of bollox as it was in the thirties.Blaming the Jews is for losers who can't take responsibility for their own failings.


Are you of the Jewish persuasion perchance?????

The Jews, like Christians and other faiths are not without blood on their hands.
No, I am not, but anti-semitism and racism piss me off.

Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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police state said:
Zod said:
police state said:
According to Abu Hamza, they do...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4643720.stm

I think he raises some interesting points which I wouldn't entirely disagree with, such as 'The control of Money' and 'External Zionist Influence'.

IT's just as much of a load of bollox as it was in the thirties.Blaming the Jews is for losers who can't take responsibility for their own failings.


Unfortunately Zod, the figures (for the 30's) don't exactly support your comments. The reality was that they did indeed wield a far greater influence than their numbers actually warranted.

Undue influence? According to whom? How do numbers warrant influence? Is your source Himmler?

hedders

24,460 posts

277 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Surely anti-semitism and racism are the same thing.

Why do jews have a special word for those that dislike them? I never heard of ant-christianism etc.

Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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hedders said:
Surely anti-semitism and racism are the same thing.

Why do jews have a special word for those that dislike them? I never heard of ant-christianism etc.

because the term became necessary before anyone had really thought about the fact that discriminating against others on the basis of the colour of their skin might actually be a bad thing.

Interestingly, the term "anti-semitism" should actually mean being against people of both Arabic and Jewish descent because both are semitic peoples.

Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Hilts said:
Well maybe he has some points.




Jewish men were more likely than men from any other religion to work in the banking, finance and insurance industry. Around a third of Jewish men worked in this sector.

I always remember somethig that s8 grn said about jew$ having strong influence in aspects of US administration, lemme see if I can dig up the post. 968 commented that it was disturbing.




>> Edited by Hilts on Tuesday 24th January 16:00
What exactly is this graph supposed to represnt? There is no information whatsoever. Is it proportion of male babies circumcised?

police state

Original Poster:

4,379 posts

250 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Zod said:
police state said:
Zod said:
police state said:
According to Abu Hamza, they do...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4643720.stm

I think he raises some interesting points which I wouldn't entirely disagree with, such as 'The control of Money' and 'External Zionist Influence'.

IT's just as much of a load of bollox as it was in the thirties.Blaming the Jews is for losers who can't take responsibility for their own failings.


Unfortunately Zod, the figures (for the 30's) don't exactly support your comments. The reality was that they did indeed wield a far greater influence than their numbers actually warranted.

Undue influence? According to whom? How do numbers warrant influence? Is your source Himmler?


They warrent influence when a very small minority, affect and influence the far greater majority, particulary when that minority are able to influence a nations direction and state of health (culturaly and financially speaking), worse when that minority insists on remaing essentaily speaking, a hermetic group.

Jaglover

46,832 posts

265 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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police state said:
They warrent influence when a very small minority, affect and influence the far greater majority, particulary when that minority are able to influence a nations direction and state of health (culturaly and financially speaking), worse when that minority insists on remaing essentaily speaking, a hermetic group.


You have made some fine contributions to other threads Police state, but you are sounding like Hitler's mouthpiece on this one.

police state

Original Poster:

4,379 posts

250 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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hedders said:
Surely anti-semitism and racism are the same thing.

Why do jews have a special word for those that dislike them? I never heard of ant-christianism etc.



It is not dissimilar to when a Palistinan has murdered a 'Jew', but an 'Isreali' has killed a Palistinian.



Zod

35,295 posts

288 months

Tuesday 24th January 2006
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Ted, this thread is not useful to Pistonheads. Please kill it.
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