1.5m council workers threaten to strike
1.5m council workers threaten to strike
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puggit

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49,822 posts

278 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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So 1.5m council workers think that saving 6% for their pensions is enough (I contribute 15%!), and that we - the taxpayers - should pay even more then the 26% that it's reported goes from our council tax in to public pensions (Sunday Telegraph stats).

It's not like we're even going to notice if they go on strike!!

www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-13497506,00.html

sky said:
Biggest Strike In Decades
Updated: 16:49, Monday January 23, 2006

More than 1.5 million local authority workers are to be balloted over strike action in a row over pensions.

Nine trade unions representing workers including school dinner ladies, teaching assistants, social workers and refuse collectors will ballot their members.

If a strike goes ahead it will be one of the biggest for decades.

The unions say the move is in protest at planned cuts to their pension scheme.

Dave Prentis, general secretary of UNISON, said the pensions issue was of paramount importance to his members.

He said: "It affects the rights of one million of our members who have paid 6% of their salaries into their pension scheme for decades to save for their retirement and are now being told that the deal is off.

"The local government employers and the Government should be in no doubt of how serious we are.

"All we are asking is for members of the local government pension scheme to be treated fairly - the same way as other public sector workers."

The result of the ballots are expected towards the end of February.


>> Edited by puggit on Monday 23 January 18:24

speedchick

5,290 posts

252 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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sky said:

The result of the ballots are expected towards the end of February.


Well that just sums up council workers! most other occupations can handle a strike ballot a lot faster than that!

yertis

19,738 posts

296 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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It's like being 14 all over again... the coal miner will be coming out on strike next. This will be known as "The Winter of Slight Inconvenience".

hedders

24,460 posts

277 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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Sorry, butif council workers go on strike, can't council tax payers withhold payment?

rich1231

17,340 posts

290 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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let em strike, no one will notice!

Jaglover

46,832 posts

265 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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rich1231 said:
let em strike, no one will notice!


Yep

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

264 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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Being Devil's advocate here, aren't many of these workers on extremely low pay?

puggit

Original Poster:

49,822 posts

278 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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Parrot of Doom said:
Being Devil's advocate here, aren't many of these workers on extremely low pay?
Then they should stop shuffling lentilist ideology's around and come and work in the private sector

eccles

14,403 posts

252 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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puggit said:
Parrot of Doom said:
Being Devil's advocate here, aren't many of these workers on extremely low pay?
Then they should stop shuffling lentilist ideology's around and come and work in the private sector


lower than a person doing the same job in the private sector?

Jaglover

46,832 posts

265 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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Parrot of Doom said:
Being Devil's advocate here, aren't many of these workers on extremely low pay?


That's a myth, average pay in the public sector is now higher than in the private sector. They also have very generous pension schemes to boot, which could well bankrupt this country.

FourWheelDrift

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314 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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If the title was "1.5 million council workers threaten to work" then I'd be shocked.

rude girl

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289 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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FourWheelDrift said:
If the title was "1.5 million council workers threaten to work" then I'd be shocked.


Jaglover

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265 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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FourWheelDrift said:
If the title was "1.5 million council workers threaten to work" then I'd be shocked.


Don

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314 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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School Dinner ladies? The little children will have to have sandwiches...politically bad but no other problem.

Actually we will all notice if no-one empties the bins. The bin people genuinely have us all over a barrel. Sure - I might bag up my rubbish and take it to the dump - but if everyone needs to do that it will be impossible to get in and out of it. The local chavs will simply leave bin bags out on the street. Then come the vermin. Then disease.

Yep. The sooner we automate the bins the better.

225

1,331 posts

256 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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No doubt the work shy tube workers will go on sypathy strike, hell why don't all them unions go on strike........
The only people that deserve unions IMO are the health workers and essential staff and they never do! (well bar the fireman a while ago)

FELLOW IT BROTHERS AND SISTERS, MASS WALK OUT NOW!

rude girl

6,937 posts

289 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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I thought most refuse collection was contracted-out now? It certainly is here.

mattley

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252 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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Jaglover said:
Parrot of Doom said:
Being Devil's advocate here, aren't many of these workers on extremely low pay?


That's a myth, average pay in the public sector is now higher than in the private sector. They also have very generous pension schemes to boot, which could well bankrupt this country.


The pay most certainly isn't higher, at least not in finance and admin, and most definatelty not IT. I can't comment on other sectors. The overall package settlements are however excellent.

You mentioned pensions, which is a big bonus, but the real killer has to be that in the private sector a level of expertise is required, or at the very least competence. Once in the private sector it would seem that these shackles of commercial viability are removed, and career progression is assured regardless of virtue, talent or suitability to the role.

hedders

24,460 posts

277 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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mattley said:


but the real killer has to be that in the private sector a level of expertise is required, or at the very least competence. Once in the private sector it would seem



We know what you mean



Moparmick

690 posts

263 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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Did anyone hear 5 live's Peter Allen interview the unison rep, tonight, fantastic, he tied her in knots, better than Paxman.
Mick

bga

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281 months

Monday 23rd January 2006
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Jaglover said:
Parrot of Doom said:
Being Devil's advocate here, aren't many of these workers on extremely low pay?


That's a myth, average pay in the public sector is now higher than in the private sector. They also have very generous pension schemes to boot, which could well bankrupt this country.


What source/s are you basing this opinion on. I used do a lot of work with the public sector & have been involved previously in some organisational design with a couple of departments. It remains that where comparable, job-for-job the pay is a significant % lower than private sector. On the other hand holiday is typically better, average working hours are lower & pensions better.