Property gurus - how much loss in value by loosing bath?
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In view of the fact I want a more central location, the place I am looking at buying doesn't have the benefits of an en suite shower room. With 1 bathroom it means a shower over bath. Which I hate.
If I ripped out the bathroom suite and replaced it with a large walk in style shower or a wet room style screening, is this likely to create a loss on market value? I am not bothered loosing the cost of the new bathroom, but if it causes a dent in the overall value, its a double loss....
If I ripped out the bathroom suite and replaced it with a large walk in style shower or a wet room style screening, is this likely to create a loss on market value? I am not bothered loosing the cost of the new bathroom, but if it causes a dent in the overall value, its a double loss....
when i was looking for a house over the last few months, any time houses turned up without a bath i kept looking; looked at one, had a full wet room (imho lovely) but would still want to have a bath as well let the girlfriend soak things like that; so swiftly dropped to the bottom of the pile.
so i would think most likely make it much harder to sell if it did not affect the top price
so i would think most likely make it much harder to sell if it did not affect the top price
What type of property is it ? if its a two bedroom house you will lose a fair whack if its a one bed appartment then no you should not lose any value but this all depends if the next buyer wants a bath or a shower room !
Sorry not much help but thats the way the situation is viewed by agents.
Sorry not much help but thats the way the situation is viewed by agents.
IS200RJR said:
What type of property is it ? if its a two bedroom house you will lose a fair whack if its a one bed appartment then no you should not lose any value but this all depends if the next buyer wants a bath or a shower room !
Sorry not much help but thats the way the situation is viewed by agents.
Its a 2 bed apartment.
Hmm, good point made in that if its a single bloke buying, probably no problem. However, at the current Southern prices most perspective buyers will be a couple and the wench might walk away without a bath.

Aerofoil said:
What about a bath and shower combo. Ideal Standard do one in their space range?
How does that differ from what's already in there?
I have to say, I love a decent shower and probably use the bath in the house once or twice a year after a hard days mountain biking. I just do not like standing in a tony bath tub with some poxy electric shower on the wall dribbling at best!
shnozz said:
If I ripped out the bathroom suite and replaced it with a large walk in style shower or a wet room style screening,
Maybe It's because I know shnozz but the idea of him "ripping out" and "replacing" anything has me in stitches, his current bathroom took almost a year to complete and that was a lick of paint, some lino' flooring and a barbed wire bog seat!!!!! Just think how many "my kitchen light doesn't work" "anyone know about boilers" and "how do you wire a plug" threads we have seen in the past

mel said:
shnozz said:
If I ripped out the bathroom suite and replaced it with a large walk in style shower or a wet room style screening,
Maybe It's because I know shnozz but the idea of him "ripping out" and "replacing" anything has me in stitches, his current bathroom took almost a year to complete and that was a lick of paint, some lino' flooring and a barbed wire bog seat!!!!! Just think how many "my kitchen light doesn't work" "anyone know about boilers" and "how do you wire a plug" threads we have seen in the past
fvck off Mel.
And when I say ripping out and replacing, I mean paying someone else to rip out and replace....
It will cost you come re-sale time and I don't mean it may cost you a few quid of the asking price it might actually cost you a sale. People will automatically assume a bath won't fit. "If he could have fitted a bath in here he would have, so one won't fit".
If you really like the property and every other aspect of it is right for you either.
a) look at stealing a bit of space to install a shower in addition to a bath (it's less than 1m2 after all) from a room next door. This will probably actually add to the value/desireability of the property come re-sale time.
or
b) if the above is not feasible, remove the bath, install a shower but before you come to sell have a bath re-fitted.
If you really like the property and every other aspect of it is right for you either.
a) look at stealing a bit of space to install a shower in addition to a bath (it's less than 1m2 after all) from a room next door. This will probably actually add to the value/desireability of the property come re-sale time.
or
b) if the above is not feasible, remove the bath, install a shower but before you come to sell have a bath re-fitted.
shnozz said:
Aerofoil said:
What about a bath and shower combo. Ideal Standard do one in their space range?
How does that differ from what's already in there?
I have to say, I love a decent shower and probably use the bath in the house once or twice a year after a hard days mountain biking. I just do not like standing in a tony bath tub with some poxy electric shower on the wall dribbling at best!
Well, what's to stop you putting a power shower in there? They have quite a large curved frame and she shower end is larger. It was only a suggestion.
shnozz said:
I just do not like standing in a tony bath tub with some poxy electric shower on the wall dribbling at best!
can always get a power shower pump installed in airing cupboard or under bath perhaps, then have all the pressure you want, only downside is you have to step up into the bath but saves a lot of cost and would allow you to cover both options,
Aerofoil said:
shnozz said:
Aerofoil said:
What about a bath and shower combo. Ideal Standard do one in their space range?
How does that differ from what's already in there?
I have to say, I love a decent shower and probably use the bath in the house once or twice a year after a hard days mountain biking. I just do not like standing in a tony bath tub with some poxy electric shower on the wall dribbling at best!
Well, what's to stop you putting a power shower in there? They have quite a large curved frame and she shower end is larger. It was only a suggestion.
apologies for coming across dismissive - wasnt the intention, just wondered how it differed from a standard combo?
It seems that a curved frame is the difference

shnozz said:
Aerofoil said:
shnozz said:
Aerofoil said:
What about a bath and shower combo. Ideal Standard do one in their space range?
How does that differ from what's already in there?
I have to say, I love a decent shower and probably use the bath in the house once or twice a year after a hard days mountain biking. I just do not like standing in a tony bath tub with some poxy electric shower on the wall dribbling at best!
Well, what's to stop you putting a power shower in there? They have quite a large curved frame and she shower end is larger. It was only a suggestion.
apologies for coming across dismissive - wasnt the intention, just wondered how it differed from a standard combo?![]()
It seems that a curved frame is the difference![]()
No worries, have a look on here
www.ideal-standard.co.uk/pdfs/space.pdf
I think a lot of other places do them now.
>> Edited by Aerofoil on Wednesday 18th January 09:37
>> Edited by Aerofoil on Wednesday 18th January 09:37
I have a 2 bed city centre apartment with no bath, just a massive shower. I had the estate agents in and nobody commented on the lack of a bath and the valuation is roughly the same as other flats in the building.
As my car dealer mate with the green Ferrari says: there's a bum for every seat.
As my car dealer mate with the green Ferrari says: there's a bum for every seat.
Phil, I had the same thoughts when I did my house up. If you're up this way, come and have a look at what I've done to my bathroom. The shower is over the bath, but not at the tap-end. Shower's not in your way if you're bathing, and (apart from the high sides), it feels like you're in a normal shower when showering. And if you do the job right, the shower is nothing like a trickle - I've never turned mine up full, but it can hit the window at the other end at even 50%.
Easier if I just take a couple of pics, hang on a minute...
The bath looks really narrow on those, but that must just be the angle - it's a full size normal bath.
HTH
edited to say they weren't supposed to turn out that size. sorry.
>> Edited by rude girl on Wednesday 18th January 09:44
Easier if I just take a couple of pics, hang on a minute...
The bath looks really narrow on those, but that must just be the angle - it's a full size normal bath.
HTH
edited to say they weren't supposed to turn out that size. sorry.
>> Edited by rude girl on Wednesday 18th January 09:44
blueyes said:
I have a 2 bed city centre apartment with no bath, just a massive shower. I had the estate agents in and nobody commented on the lack of a bath and the valuation is roughly the same as other flats in the building.
As my car dealer mate with the green Ferrari says: there's a bum for every seat.
Cheers for that, interesting stuff. I guess its probably more apparent when the market is more stagnant.

rude girl said:
Phil, I had the same thoughts when I did my house up. If you're up this way, come and have a look at what I've done to my bathroom. The shower is over the bath, but not at the tap-end. Shower's not in your way if you're bathing, and (apart from the high sides), it feels like you're in a normal shower when showering. And if you do the job right, the shower is nothing like a trickle - I've never turned mine up full, but it can hit the window at the other end at even 50%.
Easier if I just take a couple of pics, hang on a minute...![]()
Tnaks Corinne. Helpful stuff from PH - glad I asked the question now
YHM
The problem with that Ideal Standard one is you've still got to climb over into it when you have a hangover from hell then fall out of it and smash your head open when getting out. Much better to have a wet room so you can just crawl into it reach up for the on button and then lay there dieing until you feel a bit more human.
Either way I guess we're going to see more threads about Southampton plumbers, tile fitters, bathroom shops, and leaky taps than we saw about Griff 500's when DustyC was looking
Slightly of topic but haven't Tiles R Us gone bust and are having big liquidation sales at the mo', they do also do bathroom suites you see.
Either way I guess we're going to see more threads about Southampton plumbers, tile fitters, bathroom shops, and leaky taps than we saw about Griff 500's when DustyC was looking
Slightly of topic but haven't Tiles R Us gone bust and are having big liquidation sales at the mo', they do also do bathroom suites you see.
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