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kerfuffle

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Thursday 12th January 2006
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I'm just full of questions nowadays...


I'm looking at buying a Gavin Turk print at the mo. It's a hand-signed (with brush) edition of 100 and isn't especially cheap. Question is, is such a thing a decent investment?

I'm also looking at buying a couple of James Cauty pictures if anyone knows anything about him.

nervous

24,050 posts

260 months

Thursday 12th January 2006
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i think youre unlikely to realise any profit in your lifetime, and certainly not in his. its a nice thing to have though chum, stuff the profit.

maxf

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271 months

Thursday 12th January 2006
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great thread - I'm faced with lots of blank walls so am seriously looking around at art for the first time ever!

Anyone heard of Michael Kidd? I really like his New York paintings, BUT they aren't cheap and nobody seems to do any prints. Terrible investment, or semi ok?

Its either that or a carbon boost tube for the 340

maxed

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250 months

Thursday 12th January 2006
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Pictures please

can't judge without them

maxf

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271 months

Thursday 12th January 2006
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not sure if this link will work: www.ronagallery.com/doc/kiddBrochure.pdf

ewenm

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275 months

Thursday 12th January 2006
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I always try to avoid looking at art as an investment. If it's a picture I like and I can afford it, then I'll buy it. It doesn't matter who painted it or whether it'll be worth more in x years, it's there for me to enjoy now.

maxed

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250 months

Thursday 12th January 2006
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Kidd has done some fantastic urbans themes
Wicked really but need a huge blank wall to exhibit.

difficult decision

alexkp

16,484 posts

274 months

Thursday 12th January 2006
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I do buy art - mostly originals - from time to time. There is no hard and fast rule to what will appreciate an what won't, unless you buy work by already well recognised artists.

Spotting contemporary or recent artists whose work will appreciate is a very difficult task even for experts, so unless you are an expert, or planning on becoming one, don't worry too much.

Just buy what you like. If a painting is priced at a thousand pounds and you like it enough to pay a thousand pounds, then it is worth a thousand pounds to you. Simple as that.

My advice is - buy what you like and don't get hung up about it being an investment. Just enjoy it.

kerfuffle

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Thursday 12th January 2006
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nervous said:
i think youre unlikely to realise any profit in your lifetime, and certainly not in his. its a nice thing to have though chum, stuff the profit.


Very true - I'd be happy if it at least kept its value.

maxf

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Thursday 12th January 2006
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Good advice Alex, thanks.

I used to gulp at the thought of spending money on art, but came to the realisation that I'd spend lots on a hi-fi, dvd player, ipod and other 'gadgets' which might not get used every day, or even every week - but wouldn't spend as much on some art which I would see every single day.

B17NNS

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277 months

Thursday 12th January 2006
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Athena circa 1989

jeff m

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288 months

Thursday 12th January 2006
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Thought I'd add a little helpful info;

If you buy a print you will need to get it matted and framed.
You must make sure that only acid free materials are used, any reputable framing shop would use acid free materials, you buddy who says "I can frame that for you" may not!

Paintings, originals. The artist will pay for the frame anything from $50 to 250 (and up) he then gives it to a gallery who displays it and gets 40% when it is sold.
So if you like an artist, try to buy from him, you'll get more for your money. (also you can frame to suit your decor)

If you like fantasy prints here is a link to my friends site.
www.grahamcollins.co.uk/home.html

staceyb

7,107 posts

254 months

Thursday 12th January 2006
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Buy it to enjoy and then when your gone aand buried it will become a family airloom and stay in your family for generations.

tvrbob

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285 months

Thursday 12th January 2006
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I bought a Gallery Print Kinkade about 4 years ago. Limited to 250 run and there were only two 'new' copies left in circulation. This lithograph is retouched by a member of the Kinkade school and authenticated by Thomas Kinkade as being a 'gold' mark gallery print. I paid £650 for it knowing that once the last 'new' in circulation has been sold that these prints increase in value. The current valuation is £1k and Buchanan Galleries, Glasgow would expect it to reach £850 minimum at auction.

I don't expect it to increase much further and it was not bought as an investment

nervous

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260 months

Thursday 12th January 2006
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staceyb said:
airloom


that sounds fancy. is that a loom for the traditionlist who thinks that water-cooled is satans work?

anonymous-user

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Thursday 12th January 2006
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anonymous said:
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As an art dealer I totally agree with that. Buy art because you like it, not because it may or may not go up in value.

Having said that I've got 2 cracking John Mackie pastels in stock at the mo which are bound to be a good investment.

kerfuffle

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Thursday 12th January 2006
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unrepentant said:
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As an art dealer I totally agree with that. Buy art because you like it, not because it may or may not go up in value.

Having said that I've got 2 cracking John Mackie pastels in stock at the mo which are bound to be a good investment.


Aha, an art dealer. What do you reckon to Gavin Turk then?

Bet you're glad you're not a doctor or I'd be sending your pictures of the funny marks on my todger

Cotty

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314 months

Thursday 12th January 2006
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If the art comes out a little on the pricy side dont forget to make sure it is covered under your contents insurance as there may be a single item limit. If not I know a firm that can help

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 13th January 2006
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kerfuffle said:
[Aha, an art dealer. What do you reckon to Gavin Turk then?

Bet you're glad you're not a doctor or I'd be sending your pictures of the funny marks on my todger




Is it one of his Warholesque prints that you're looking at? Not my taste but whatever rocks your boat.