Didn't he do well??............
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s sake. Whats that Don't think there's anything wrong with GR getting an OBE or Heston Blumenthal for that matter. They are damn good chefs.
A knighthood for Tom Jones though? Do us a favour! Never has someone had such a long but unprolific career.
Edited to say: You are right FWD and the list reflects this in the worst way.
>> Edited by Frik on Saturday 31st December 14:15
A knighthood for Tom Jones though? Do us a favour! Never has someone had such a long but unprolific career.
Edited to say: You are right FWD and the list reflects this in the worst way.
>> Edited by Frik on Saturday 31st December 14:15
Gazboy said:
If I'm right and am prepared to be corrected on this, but aren't most of these government recommended awards and nothing to do with the Queen?
Maybe Ramsay jumped Blair over the queue into his restaurant one night in return for an OBE.
I always thought the government and the Queen submit their own entries????
IIRC the Queen is only responsible for Garter Knights?
Frik said:
Don't think there's anything wrong with GR getting an OBE or Heston Blumenthal for that matter. They are damn good chefs.
A knighthood for Tom Jones though? Do us a favour! Never has someone had such a long but unprolific career.
Eh? I know a lot of people who are good at their jobs but they dont get gongs cos they aint on the telly.
Tom Jones deserves his for services to the womens knicker industry.
Website said:-
"He spent 20 years travelling the country, working seven days a week, performing in church halls, sleeping in luggage racks and waiting for his big break."
Unlike many, Bruce paid his dues, and has been at the top of his profession for nearly fifty years, unlike some of the current crop of entertainers (Peter Kay excepted) such as Johnny Vegas, who are (imo) as funny as toothache.........
"He spent 20 years travelling the country, working seven days a week, performing in church halls, sleeping in luggage racks and waiting for his big break."
Unlike many, Bruce paid his dues, and has been at the top of his profession for nearly fifty years, unlike some of the current crop of entertainers (Peter Kay excepted) such as Johnny Vegas, who are (imo) as funny as toothache.........
We have this debate at every honours list:
People who have done 'very well thank you' from a career in entertainment, civil service, business or sport getting an award for, well, doing a job they have been paid very well to do.
I would like to see some firmer and public criteria which include a significant contribution of their time for others (and I don't mean an odd celebrity appearance, cricket match or Royal Variety show). I am not convinced half of this 'charity' would be done if they didn't get their faces on the tele or in the papers. I know a relatively weel known film actor who did work for a worthy cause (well came and had his picture taken twice)who told me that he did it to get a gong because the Americans love it whe they come to cast for films.
Personally I would like to see serial foster parents, charity fund raisers and people who hang on like whippets to issues and make a real difference to other people's lives given awards, whether or not it is liked politically .
People who have done 'very well thank you' from a career in entertainment, civil service, business or sport getting an award for, well, doing a job they have been paid very well to do.
I would like to see some firmer and public criteria which include a significant contribution of their time for others (and I don't mean an odd celebrity appearance, cricket match or Royal Variety show). I am not convinced half of this 'charity' would be done if they didn't get their faces on the tele or in the papers. I know a relatively weel known film actor who did work for a worthy cause (well came and had his picture taken twice)who told me that he did it to get a gong because the Americans love it whe they come to cast for films.
Personally I would like to see serial foster parents, charity fund raisers and people who hang on like whippets to issues and make a real difference to other people's lives given awards, whether or not it is liked politically .
Balmoral Green said:
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I am not sure what proportion of the population are professional entertainers and sportsmen/women. I would guess they are disproportionately represented in the lists, especially at the top end of the honours tree. They also tend to get multiple honours (e.g. Coe)
Full list here, 95 pages and hundreds and hundreds of names, virtually NO celebrities despite the media exposure.
www.number-10.gov.uk/files/pdf/QueensListdfjh784575hekjfffffff4435.pdf
Bit boring though, nearly all business people or civil servants.
>> Edited by Balmoral Green on Saturday 31st December 15:26
www.number-10.gov.uk/files/pdf/QueensListdfjh784575hekjfffffff4435.pdf
Bit boring though, nearly all business people or civil servants.
>> Edited by Balmoral Green on Saturday 31st December 15:26
Balmoral Green said:
Full list here, 95 pages and hundreds and hundreds of names, virtually NO celebrities despite the media exposure.
www.number-10.gov.uk/files/pdf/QueensListdfjh784575hekjfffffff4435.pdf
Bit boring though, nearly all business people or civil servants.
>> Edited by Balmoral Green on Saturday 31st December 15:26
well i read the whole list, and there's only one person i actually know on it!
The Honours list is a total joke.
Celebs are given gongs simply for pursuing their own careers. Ramsey - why? Baskar - you have to be kidding...just PC'ness/
It used to be that the honours went to those who had worked hard for the public good for many years, usually with little reward or recognition.
Now they just go to "celebs" who have ruthlessly pursued their own very lucrative careers.
Celebs are given gongs simply for pursuing their own careers. Ramsey - why? Baskar - you have to be kidding...just PC'ness/
It used to be that the honours went to those who had worked hard for the public good for many years, usually with little reward or recognition.
Now they just go to "celebs" who have ruthlessly pursued their own very lucrative careers.
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