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vixpy1

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42,699 posts

294 months

Tuesday 27th December 2005
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The manager on our new site has been told by BT that the site cannot have broadband because it is 1000 meters from one exchange and 750 meters from another.

They will need to get it installed for lots of new tennants that are coming, and i obviously have a vested interest, I think they are looking at a Satalite Broadband system.

Anyone here work in the Telecoms industry got any bright ideas as to solving the problem?

tvradict

3,829 posts

304 months

Tuesday 27th December 2005
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i thought the maximum distance from an Exchange was 5km, and there was no minimum distance

Could be wrong.

Hughesie II

12,795 posts

312 months

Tuesday 27th December 2005
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Satellites good, but bad weather plays havoc with it, many under developed countries use it well, i wouldnt have put deepest darkest surrey in that category though

RichUK

1,334 posts

277 months

Tuesday 27th December 2005
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I'm sure the distance limits for xDSL products was raised from 3km to over 5km sometime last year.

Have you tried talking to a decent ISP instead?

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

297 months

Tuesday 27th December 2005
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Do you have a post code or Phone number? If you do I am sur you can pump it inbto the BT site or other BB suppliers and they will tell you whether you can get it.
I live right on the suburbs of a town and it was just over 5kms from the nearest BT exchange and they couldn offer me BB, altough NTL could through Cable. The company I work for have got BB and Are near enough the same distance from the Exchange as me confused yes.

BB

Hughsie, Good to see you again mate today

vixpy1

Original Poster:

42,699 posts

294 months

Tuesday 27th December 2005
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NTL have also told them they cannot have Cable installed..

The whole phone system is an MOD one which is rather old.. and the site has the M3 running through the middle of it, and a Golf coarse the other side...

RichUK

1,334 posts

277 months

Tuesday 27th December 2005
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Try using the postcode / telephone number checker on someone like www.nildram.com, see what that throws up.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Tuesday 27th December 2005
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See if the MOD have any spare fibre pairs you can use. Most bases are fibred up to the eyeballs. Failing that, there will be service ducts that you could use to run a private fibre back to the main DP. Another option is something like LaserBit if you have line of sight. There are lots of options without using satelite, just need to know a bit more about what is allowed and what isn't.

tubafun

433 posts

278 months

Tuesday 27th December 2005
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Give these a shout, [urlwww.squaremileinternational.com/index.html[/url]. They work mostly in marinas but you never know. The marina I work in is about 4 miles away from the nearest BT exchange, and lots of people have in the area use them without a problem. You never no, they might be able to help.

john_p

7,073 posts

280 months

Tuesday 27th December 2005
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I'm not sure what BT are on about - ADSL should be easily achievable over such a short distance - unless there is some other problem ? No compatible phoneline, perhaps.

If BT refuse to install broadband for some reason no other broadband ISP will be able to.

You could get fibre installed to the estate, then connect each building up to it. It's worth speaking to someone like BT, COLT or Easynet and seeing how much a LES10 (10mbit) or LES100 (100mbit) will cost - probably lots, but if you can "sell" it on to the tenants for say £1k/pa (and it will be a true 10mbit not 2mbit at 20:1), then you might be able to cover the cost or make a small profit..

FLat in Fifth

48,902 posts

281 months

Tuesday 27th December 2005
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In our last office we replaced two dedicated mainframe landlines, goodness knows how much PC network stuff and all the BT voice/fax lines with one microwave link to a communications mast on top of the local BT exchange. That was about 1km away.

Maybe a wander about with a pair of binoculars and see if you can spot a likely comms mast is in order. Risky if the military connection makes that a nono.

miniman

30,136 posts

292 months

Tuesday 27th December 2005
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Be cautious of satellite broadband - for a download of a single, large file, it's great, but the latency means that transferring lots of small files (e.g. when browsing the web) is very slow compared to normal broadband.

avantone

105 posts

265 months

Tuesday 27th December 2005
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vixpy1 said:
The manager on our new site has been told by BT that the site cannot have broadband because it is 1000 meters from one exchange and 750 meters from another.


You'd be able to get a high bandwidth product off either of these exchanges - I live @ 3.7km from my local exchange and there's no problem with mine. I think I'd go back to BT and ask again - they've got it wrong.

jimbeaux

33,791 posts

261 months

Tuesday 27th December 2005
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DSL must be within 15,000 feet of a switch, the farther away, the slower. Broadband, however, does not have the same restriction.