"Happy Christmas" or Happy Holidays"?
Discussion
Well how daft does life get?
Amidst the talk of various people and institutions replacing "Happy Christmas" with "Happy Holidays", I was busy contemplating how you react to someone, who is "probably" not Christian (although I guess a statement like that could make me racist) when they wish you "Merry Christmas" (i.e. they're obviously being polite to you about something they think is in your calendar but isn't in theirs!)
The problem with this is that as an atheist (but you can't really deduce that from my appearance I suppose) I get wished something that doesn't mean anything to me!
Anyway, so we're now seeing "Happy Holidays"
Just how 
is that?????
I mean - it's only a "HOLY-DAY" if you're F'ng Christian anyway! It's not a holiday/holyday to me any more than "Christmas" is!
Amidst the talk of various people and institutions replacing "Happy Christmas" with "Happy Holidays", I was busy contemplating how you react to someone, who is "probably" not Christian (although I guess a statement like that could make me racist) when they wish you "Merry Christmas" (i.e. they're obviously being polite to you about something they think is in your calendar but isn't in theirs!)
The problem with this is that as an atheist (but you can't really deduce that from my appearance I suppose) I get wished something that doesn't mean anything to me!
Anyway, so we're now seeing "Happy Holidays"
Just how is that????? I mean - it's only a "HOLY-DAY" if you're F'ng Christian anyway! It's not a holiday/holyday to me any more than "Christmas" is!
beano500 said:
I mean - it's only a "HOLY-DAY" if you're F'ng Christian anyway! It's not a holiday/holyday to me any more than "Christmas" is!
But then your regular annual vacation is most usually refered to as a holiday, though there is usually nothing 'Holy' about it.
personally I think too much is being made of this (not here BTW but on other sites) does it matter ? If someone says either Happy Holiday or Happy/Merry Christmas I will not be bothered either way.
The problem with saying Happy Holidays is that it's confusing as you could fool yourself into packing your suitcase thinking you're off somewhere nice and warm also what happens in the summer when you're off on holiday and somebody say Happy Holidays and you think oh shit I've forgotten to get everyone a present. It's Christmas for FFS and has been for (where's that timeline?) years.
Of course its "Merry Christmas". Its christmas that I'm celebrating.
Now if someone is celebrating "National Scientology Brainwashing day" the I would expect them to wish me a "Happy National Scientology Brainwashing day".
Pretty simple really.
How could somone be offended by that?
Is there ANY grounds to take offence?
Case in point, a colleague of mine wished me a happy Diwali earlier in the year. Should I have been massively offended and taken the company to a tribunal for religious discrimination because I wasnt celebrating his religious holiday?
Now if someone is celebrating "National Scientology Brainwashing day" the I would expect them to wish me a "Happy National Scientology Brainwashing day".
Pretty simple really.
How could somone be offended by that?
Is there ANY grounds to take offence?
Case in point, a colleague of mine wished me a happy Diwali earlier in the year. Should I have been massively offended and taken the company to a tribunal for religious discrimination because I wasnt celebrating his religious holiday?
C C said:
Shouldn’t Christmas be for Christians and happy holiday, seasons greetings etc be for non-Christians.
But who really cares? I'm not having a go at you C C, but I really think that it's not important. The fabric of society is not going to collapse because a non-Christian says "Happy Christmas", is it?
silversun said:Besides, the holiday is Christmas - you can use the word whether or not you take the deep meaning from it or just use it to refer to the holiday (not holyday) that we have around Christmas.
Shouldn’t Christmas be for Christians and happy holiday, seasons greetings etc be for non-Christians.
But who really cares? I'm not having a go at you C C, but I really think that it's not important. The fabric of society is not going to collapse because a non-Christian says "Happy Christmas", is it?
What a ridiculous thing to argue about.
tvrolet said:
Up until the 23rd TOMORROW it'll be Happy Christmas....
Thereafter Happy Holidays as I'm off to California for a wee break, and Happy Holidays seems all the rage on t'other side of the pond
Not really. Just in the People's Republic Of California and the Social Democratic Republic Of New York (and surrounding territories)
ErnestM
wolves_wanderer said:
Shouldn’t Christmas be for Christians and happy holiday, seasons greetings etc be for non-Christians.
But who really cares? I'm not having a go at you C C, but I really think that it's not important. The fabric of society is not going to collapse because a non-Christian says "Happy Christmas", is it?
What a ridiculous thing to argue about.
I’m not that bothered either. It’s the sprit of good will that is passed on is what’s really important.
ErnestM said:
Up until the 23rd TOMORROW it'll be Happy Christmas....
Thereafter Happy Holidays as I'm off to California for a wee break
Not really. Just in the People's Republic Of California and the Social Democratic Republic Of New York (and surrounding territories)
ErnestM
And Florida...where we froze last year....
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