Beagle 2 "nearly worked", and "may" have been found...
Beagle 2 "nearly worked", and "may" have been found...
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m1spw

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Tuesday 20th December 2005
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Just red this on MSN news. The Beagle 2 mission to Mars may have been seen in pictures taken by Nasa of Mars:

Reuters and MSN said:
LONDON (Reuters) - The scientist behind the lost 2003 Beagle 2 mission to Mars said on Tuesday the craft may have been spotted in NASA pictures which indicate the project very nearly worked.

Beagle 2, named after the ship Charles Darwin sailed in when he formulated his theory of evolution, was built by British scientists for about 50 million pounds ($90 million) and taken to Mars aboard the European Space Agency's orbiter Mars Express.

It was due to land in a crater on the red planet in a bouncing ball of airbags and begin looking for signs of life on Christmas Day, 2003. But it lost contact with Earth once it separated from the mother ship in mid-December.

Colin Pillinger told the BBC he thought the craft may have hit the ground too hard, damaging its instruments, because the atmosphere was thinner than usual due to dust storms.

Pictures taken by NASA's orbiting Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft may contain clues about Beagle's final seconds.

"There is a lot of disturbance in this crater, particularly a big patch on the north crater wall which we think is the primary impact site," Pillinger said.

"There are then other features around the crater consistent with the airbags bouncing around and finally falling down into the middle. Then, when you cut the lace, the airbags fall apart giving three very symmetrical triangles.

Four roughly circular features to the right of the 'airbag' markings could be Beagle's unfolded solar panels, he said.

Pillinger said the findings, if correct, showed the project came very close to working but had failed because it had landed in a "sideways motion" instead of a "horizontal mode".

"That may have damaged the lander so the lid didn't open properly and didn't release the antennae, so we couldn't get the signal," he said.

The European Space Agency and British government, which jointly commissioned an inquiry into what went wrong, said in May 2004 that no one was to blame for the mission's failure.


http://newsbox.msn.co.uk/article.aspx?as=adimarticle

some of these excuses are unbelievable. So it landed sideways, surely they should of compensated for that instead of assuming it would land in the exact way they wanted it to?

>> Edited by m1spw on Tuesday 20th December 21:12

alexkp

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274 months

Tuesday 20th December 2005
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The Beagle 2 project was run on a very tight budget. The complexities of delivering a probe to Mars are immense - regardless of budget. Around 50% fail to get there, or crash on landing.

How easy do you think it is?

up-the-dubs

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Tuesday 20th December 2005
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planetdave

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283 months

Tuesday 20th December 2005
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The americans managed it

Are you calling our scientists stupid?

Well at least our Col had the sidies for it

m1spw

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Tuesday 20th December 2005
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up-the-dubs said:
D-Done

Sorry, had a quick look over the past few pages of threads but must have missed it.

And no, i'm not calling scientists stupid.

tallbloke

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313 months

Tuesday 20th December 2005
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planetdave said:
The americans managed it


This time. I seem to recall not so long back a cockup involving metric-imperial conversions resulting in a toasted lander.

ah yes, here we are:

"Inspector General Roberta L. Gross ordered a review of NASA's metric policy following the loss nearly 18 months ago of the Mars Climate Orbiter, blamed on a contractor's use of English measurements instead of metric. Despite that catastrophe, the agency continues to allow those responsible for the space shuttles, the International Space Station and robotic missions to mix metric and English systems."

Notice the way they try to blame it on us!

Or is it that they can't bring themselves to call the English measuring system "Imperial"?

>> Edited by tallbloke on Tuesday 20th December 21:49

up-the-dubs

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259 months

Tuesday 20th December 2005
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m1spw said:
up-the-dubs said:
D-Done

Sorry, had a quick look over the past few pages of threads but must have missed it.


Thats quite alright .

simpo two

92,945 posts

295 months

Tuesday 20th December 2005
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That airbag-bouncing system was always stupid. But they didn't have the money or payload to do anything else.

America has NASA; we have an eccentric and some Bacofoil.

andy mac

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285 months

Tuesday 20th December 2005
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NASA is a very international organisation. they can pluck away many great minds, from a great many countries.

Eric Mc

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295 months

Tuesday 20th December 2005
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The airbag system can work very well - witness Mars Soujourner and the two current landers - both used airbag systems.