This is fraud, right?

[s3am]

Just sold my first item on Ebay and was contacted by this fella. Says he wants me to ship to Nigeria and that he has payed me via Paypal (the proof being the receipt below). Now being a trusting soul I wrote back saying that his Ipod would be in the post monday. Then I took another look at the invoice. Badly spelled, pretty poor graphics and sent from an address that was xxx@_paypal.com <<[e-mail]>>. Having spoken to Paypal they have confirmed its false, and zero funds have been deposited in my account.

I know I'm naive, but do we just have to put up with sh!ts like this??

What a cock!

Ebay nobber said:

Dear Samuel, Paypal ® hereby congratulate you and at the same time informing you that the Paypal®Order sent to you from Peter Johnson has been Approved. Paypal® Order : 120.00€ Paypal Order Number :#1176e352 Using Paypal for eBay Auction Purchases. Use to pay for on-line purchases, the companies / individuals you buy from will not see your credit card number. This is an important security feature and certainly is better than having your credit card number transmitted all over the Internet. PayPal is secure, and they screen their merchant accounts very closely. You CAN NOW send the items to the buyer. as this order has been approved, and will be sent to the above PayPal account Email address as soon as we verify and confirm the shipping tracking number send to us. NB NOTE THAT THE ORDER WILL NOT REFLECT IN YOUR ACCOUNT UNTIL THE SHIPMENT TRACKING NUMBER IS SENT TO US FOR SHIPMENT VERIFICATION IN OTHER TO SECURE BOTH THE SELLER AND THE BUYER. And if you have any question, feel free to contact our customer service at ([e-mail]) Thank you for using Paypal ® Auction Payments. We look forward serving your online auction payment needs in the future. On Dec.03 44:46, [e-mail] sent: by Peter Johnson Transaction Details eBay Payment Received (ID # 0L572933X57204IE) Total Amount: 120.00€ Fee Amount: 10.69€ Net Amount: 130.69€ Date: Dec.03, 2005 Time: 44:46:PDT Status: Completed 1 QUANTITY :120.00€ Shipping & Handling :50.00€ Shipping Insurance :Not incuded Total: 170.00€ Shipping information: Tunde Toriola 41 Shoetan Street Ifako Ijaiye Lagos State 23401 Nigeria Confirmed Attn. Sellers: If this transaction is Seller Protection Policy eligible, you must ship to the address shown above to be protected under PayPal's Seller Protection Policy. If this transaction is Seller Protection Policy ineligible, shipping to a Confirmed Address may help to reduce your risk of dealing with a fraudulent buyer. Seller Protection Policy: Eligible Payment From: Peter Johnson(The sender of this payment is verified) Buyer's Email: [e-mail] Payment Sent to: [e-mail] Payment Type: Standard (Will be credited into your account once shipping tracking number has been recieved and verified) Shipment Tracking Information: Provide your buyer with tracking information. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ In a message dated 03/12/2005 44:46:PDT Eastern Daylight Time, please ship this item thanks. This payment has been deducted from the buyer's account and has been"APPROVED" but will be credited to your account as soon we are able to recieve the shipment tracking number sent to our customer's service for shipment verification so as to Secure Both the Buyer and the Seller. Below are the necessary information requested before your account will be credited. Thanks for using We look forward in serving your online payment. PayPal, an eBay company Copyright © 1999-2005 PayPal. All rights reserved.

>> Edited by s3am on Saturday 3rd December 23:55

[Rob_F]

s3am said:

THIS IS FRAUD, RIGHT?

Nothing gets past you does it mate?

Cheers,
Rob.

[ADDYBOY1982]

If you want to sell on eBay then I'm afraid you will get some scammers - as you get used to selling on there you can spot scammers and cancel their bids from your auction. Also you can set your auctions up so that overseas bidders cannot place any bids.

[s3am]

Rob_F said:

s3am said: THIS IS FRAUD, RIGHT? Nothing gets past you does it mate? Cheers, Rob.

Teach me write a title, go away and then write an topic 10 mins later.

But you're right of course, my dear, dear Watson.

[fruitcake]

s3am said:

THIS IS FRAUD, RIGHT?

Take the '3' out of your name and replace it with a 'c' - that's what's happened, mate.

[Parrot of doom]

There are options in your seller's account to bar people with negative feedback from bidding on your auctions, also you can bar people not resident in the UK from the same.

[Wacky Racer]

To anybody trading on E-bay/Paypal download their toolbar now if it isn't lit up GREEN it's a scam....

And NEVER give out your personal information replying to an e-mail that APPEARS to come from e-Bay/Paypal

[s3am]

Thanks for the tips guys!

Have you seen emails like this before. When I rang paypal the woman started laughing, "oh its a spoof email" she chortled at the dumbass!

Finally would you write something choice to him (or her - I don't want to be sexist) or is that not 'good' practice?

Sam

[mybrainhurts]

s3am said:

Finally would you write something choice to him (or her - I don't want to be sexist) or is that not 'good' practice?

I sent the following message to a Nigerian scammer.

He did not respond, but I was attacked for quite a while thereafter......

Dear Barrister Williams

Thank you for your offer of untold wealth.

Please follow these instructions carefully :

(1) Load printer with good quality, sharp-edged paper

(2) Print this reply several times

(3) Remove paper from printer

(4) Place all pieces of paper in one pile

(5) Roll the pile of paper into a tight cone, pointed at one end

(6) Insert pointed end sharply up your arse

(7) Repeat after me "I am a cheap, thieving bastard and the bogeyman is
going to get me"

Yours sincerely

The bogeyman

[andy mac]

Send him a turd in the post. It wuill be worth the small fee it will cost!

[JimNoble]

Send him a photocopy of the ipod with a note telling him when he send real money, he'll get a real ipod...

Jim

[fruitcake]

JimNoble said:

Send him a photocopy of the ipod with a note telling him when he send real money, he'll get a real ipod... Jim

Oh I like that. Do that!

[s3am]

JimNoble said:

Send him a photocopy of the ipod with a note telling him when he send real money, he'll get a real ipod... Jim

Oh damn that's good!

[cj_eds]

s3am said:

Date: Dec.03, 2005 Time: 44:46:PDT

Wish I had that many hours in my day!

The other one I've seen on ebay was a seller with a really high feedback. When you looked at who left it though, there was about 20 or 30 accounts all recommending each other after buying made up auctions for 1p. Could have been easy to have not looked, trusted the positive feedback and sent your money.

[simpo two]

Nigeria is THE place for scams. Anything from Nigeria should be binned immediately, period.

If he actually won the auction and actually paid you by PayPal, you will get a proper e-mail from PayPal or eBay saying so. To be sure it's not a scam e-mail, go to www.paypal.com, log in to your account and see if funds have arrived.

Can you post the item number or link so we can take a peek?






>> Edited by simpo two on Sunday 4th December 19:36

[s3am]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&

[cymtriks]

Wait!

Tell him that you need some money to pay UK customs electronic equipment export charges (I just made that up in case you are in any doubt at all).

Keep promising him the Xbox and coming out with reasons why he has to pay the charge.

You take his money.

He gets the Xbox when he's paid up!

There was a thread ages ago with a link to a website where someone did exactly this. They were selling a lap top. After getting the money they posted a hand drawn picture of a keyboard and a picture of a mouse labeled "mouse"

[s3am]

cymtriks said:

He gets the Xbox when he's paid up!

I don't think that's going to happen: he's no longer registered.

[polarbert]

s3am said:

cymtriks said: He gets the Xbox when he's paid up! I don't think that's going to happen: he's no longer registered.

i thought it was an ipod?

[polarbert]

mybrainhurts said:

s3am said: Finally would you write something choice to him (or her - I don't want to be sexist) or is that not 'good' practice? I sent the following message to a Nigerian scammer. He did not respond, but I was attacked for quite a while thereafter...... Dear Barrister Williams Thank you for your offer of untold wealth. Please follow these instructions carefully : (1) Load printer with good quality, sharp-edged paper (2) Print this reply several times (3) Remove paper from printer (4) Place all pieces of paper in one pile (5) Roll the pile of paper into a tight cone, pointed at one end (6) Insert pointed end sharply up your arse (7) Repeat after me "I am a cheap, thieving bastard and the bogeyman is going to get me" Yours sincerely The bogeyman

oh and i forgot to say: