Finding an electrician...
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NiceCupOfTea

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25,595 posts

281 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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The electric shower has started going through 30A fuses like they're going out of fashion, so I need to find a decent local spark.

Any recommendations in the Bromley area, or failing that, suggestions on what qualifications / professional associations to look for?

Have asked on a local mailing list and got a couple of names and numbers but I know nothing about them so a tad nervous, especially when you read so much about new building regs for electric work.

Given that the shower was fine for years, then when I replaced the fuse once, for a month or two, then after the next fuse, about 5 minutes - it's obviously something that has worn down. There's a hot electrical appliance smell (that sort of fishy smell somebody was describing in a different thread), so I suspect a failing component (switch / connector / consumer unit (separate one for shower for some reason)), or possibly the wire is not rated high enough. 30A fuse, so that would allow a 7KW shower without grief. Cabling looks really chunky, like cooker (50A) wire, so I suspect it's rated high enough. Smell seems to centre around consumer unit and fuse has been very very hot when removed, so maybe something in there....

Thoughts?

Edited :

It's a Triton Jade, and initial googles suggest 8.5 and 9.5 kW flavours wouldn't this blow the fuse straight away?

www.showerdoc.co.uk/shower-spares/triton/jade.html



>> Edited by NiceCupOfTea on Tuesday 29th November 18:15

kneedowndeano

7,414 posts

283 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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YHM

ultimasimon

9,646 posts

288 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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Once a shower starts to 'go in fault' just bin it and fit a new one. You may be able to repair it but this is a safety approved item. An appliance that mixes water with electricity has the capacity to become a very dangerous device when faulty. In 5 years the technology has moved on a lot.

For the sake of £100-200 is it worth it?

As regards electricians, you are looking for a sparks with 16th edition, Part 'P'. They will be able to saign off your new installation so you are all above board and squeaky clean (pun intended ).

You wouldn' fit cheap crappy pads on your performance car, so spend the money as your a long time dead

NiceCupOfTea

Original Poster:

25,595 posts

281 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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Don't think it's the shower at fault though - if it was, surely the fuse would just blow?

If it is the shower that needs replacing then you won't hear any argument from me!

KDD> thanks, will reply in due course

a911dom

4,084 posts

265 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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Completely off topic Im afraid but I was in a club last week enjoying a few late sherberts when a couple of girls wandered up to the bar and commented on the scarf I was wearing (I hadnt been there long and hadnt removed it), anyway, the stalky short haired platinum blonde turned out to be a sparky...What a cracker of an excuse to take her number i thought

NiceCupOfTea

Original Poster:

25,595 posts

281 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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and it is....?

a911dom

4,084 posts

265 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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NiceCupOfTea said:
and it is....?


0800 SARATHELOVELYBLONDELECCY

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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...Nice ambush, that man

a911dom

4,084 posts

265 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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mybrainhurts said:
...Nice ambush, that man


Nah, I didnt get that far....


Ooooh sorry, I thought that was a question

$lowpoke

1,855 posts

264 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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I've a mate who's a sparky and he lives not a million miles from Bromley. Lemme know if you still need his number.

Pigeon

18,535 posts

276 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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ultimasimon said:
Once a shower starts to 'go in fault' just bin it and fit a new one. You may be able to repair it but this is a safety approved item. An appliance that mixes water with electricity has the capacity to become a very dangerous device when faulty... You wouldn' fit cheap crappy pads on your performance car, so spend the money as your a long time dead



Sounds like you actually have fuses, not circuit breakers? Fuses are notoriously inaccurate devices and generally take considerably more than their rated current before they actually blow as opposed to just not lasting very long. However, overloading them does make them get hot, and the heat is conducted down the connections to cook the material of the fuseholder.

Given that you have what sounds like a fairly old installation, are you also without an RCD? One fairly common failure mode for enclosed elements is for the insulation to gradually stop insulating and become more and more conductive especially when hot. This would cause an earth leak and if you don't have an RCD it'd carry on until it got bad enough to blow the fuse. Not good... Remarkably, and stupidly, the regulations do not insist on an RCD for a shower. Personally, I do insist...

NiceCupOfTea

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25,595 posts

281 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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No RCD. It's all hideously ancient bakelite stuff, probably dating back to the 60s/70s when the flats were built. As it's this that is getting hot and smelling I figure the shower itself is probably OK.

Pigeon

18,535 posts

276 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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Doesn't necessarily follow. I once replaced an immersion heater that had been blowing fuses with increasing frequency and overheating connections. I was only asked to replace it because it had got to the stage of no longer being usable to heat the water. It turned out that the outer cladding had corroded through completely and the element was in direct contact with the water, electrolysing it in the hot water tank.