Ultima GTR - carbon fibre seats (no head space) help me !!
Ultima GTR - carbon fibre seats (no head space) help me !!
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luke.duke

Original Poster:

13 posts

312 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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Dear all,

sorry for my english, I leave in Italy and own this great Ultima GTR

[url]www.lukeduke.org/foto/2004.11.27.ultimagtr/index.htm[/url]

The problem is that I have very little space for my head in the
cockpit and I cannot drive with an helmet..

I was thinking to buy this great seats I had in my Caterham CSR 200
(they are the most comfortable seats I tryed !)

[url]www.tillett.co.uk/PDF/Dimensions2006.pdf[/url] (blackhawk B2)

[url]www.lukeduke.org/foto/2005.09.12csr200/index.htm[/url]

Do you think they will give me more space ? Do you suggest other
seats or tips to solve the problems ? I cannot drive the car
in the circuit because I cannot drive with the helmet. I am 1.90 cm..

Ciao ciao !

Luca

G Man

4,053 posts

289 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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How tall are you ? There should not be a problem if you have the lowered floor !!
Are you taller than 190cm ?
DO you have a lower floor ? If not that is your solution !!

luke.duke

Original Poster:

13 posts

312 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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I am almost sure to have it, but how can I check ?

I am 190 cm


>> Edited by luke.duke on Monday 28th November 21:36

steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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luke.duke said:
I am almost sure to have it, but how can I check ?

I am 190 cm


>> Edited by luke.duke on Monday 28th November 21:36


Look under the car, if you have the dropped floor you will see it 50mm lower than the rest of the car where the driver and passenger seats are.
If not then the whole of the underside will be flat.

Steve

luke.duke

Original Poster:

13 posts

312 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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yes, I have the lowered floor..

ezakimak

1,871 posts

265 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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The only thing that I can think of is taking your gtr to a race supply shop, and getting an aftermarket seat trial fitted. You will need to have some arraignment were you can lay the seat back using a fixed back racing bucket, to get some more head room, you might have to move it slightly forward to do this, and get some side mounting plates. I hope you legs have enough room around the steering wheel for your knees, then you can just bolt it in for track days.

luke.duke

Original Poster:

13 posts

312 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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Thank you,

so you confirm that these are not alcantara factory seats:





ciao !

Luca

steve_d

13,802 posts

287 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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Luca
As a guide the front edge of the seat should just clear the ali skinned floor by a few mm if the seat were pushed right forward. From your picture it is obvious that your seats are sitting way too high. Your first job is to see if you can reduce the mounting height of your seat runners or if you are the only driver then do away with the runners and bolt the seat direct to the floor.

Steve

luke.duke

Original Poster:

13 posts

312 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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Thank you guys for your fast reply !

I will check this evening with other italian Ultima
owner that has factory seats if I will fit better..

My seats are very very unconfortable.

Anyway, what incredible car !! Congratulations Ted
and Richard. (I met you two years ago in your factory)

The GTR is the best car of ever !

Next week I will try in the circuit for the first time,
at Monza.. I will let you know and make some camera car video..

andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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I recognise that car.

They are definatelly not factory seats, they are the same that I used in my car (admittedly I modded mine to be more upright). The factory seat will give you an extra 1-2inches of headroom as they are reclined more in the lower back.


BTW they wont go any lower... your only real option is factory seats.

>> Edited by andygtt on Tuesday 29th November 17:48

luke.duke

Original Poster:

13 posts

312 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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Andygtt,

can you told me more about the engine of this car..?

It should be 6000 cc, 400 - 450 hp, 6 speed G? gearbox,
but even the guy who sold me was not sure..

ciao !

Luca



andygtt

8,345 posts

293 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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your exactly right.... its a 6L with around 400-450BHP.... done a 11.8s quarter mile which is faster than the zonda S.
The gearbox was a G50 6speeder when I drove it.

luke.duke

Original Poster:

13 posts

312 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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I tryed this evening the factory seat on other GTR and they
are perfect ! Maybe not comfortable as Tillet carbon fibre seats
I had on Caterham CSR 200, but I am sure I fit even with helmets !

Tomorrow I will order to the factory !

Now I am happy.. Thank you to everybody that helped me solve
this problems.

ciao !

Luca

gtrclive

4,193 posts

312 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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Thats realy nice to see MY GTR again.... if not a bit heart renching....

The car was not fitted with a factory lowered floor. I was told that I did not need it because I'm only 5'8". But once I had fitted the body work and seats I realised it needed a lowered floor. At the time I asked the Factory how much lower did the lowered pan go. They said over the phone 25mm. So I had a Lowered galvanised pan madeup and cut out the flat floor and welded the new one in.

I now know they are 30mm lower so thats 5mm you haven't got.

I would recomend you fitt the Factory seats, as they will give you another 10mm head room...

If you want some more photo's or any other info on the car I have loads of photo's including the Build etc...

Have fun but please Keep it in one Piece.....


Clive

luke.duke

Original Poster:

13 posts

312 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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ahhahaahaa dear Clive,

finally I found you !!!!

I have a lot of questions:

1) engine cc, engine hp, engine type (Edelbrock?)
2) Suspension type ?
3) brakes type ?

now your car is a little different, the ex owner repaint in yellow
with some stripes:





if you have some pics to send I will be happy..

>> Edited by luke.duke on Wednesday 30th November 18:55

gtrclive

4,193 posts

312 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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Last Photo I took of the old girl before I said goodbye to her....
Broke my ankle the week before I sold it so never realy got that last drive....I was gutted to say the least....

gtrclive

4,193 posts

312 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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You don't have an email account on pistonheads, please email me...

GTRene

22,434 posts

253 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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luke.duke said:
ahhahaahaa dear Clive,

finally I found you !!!!

I have a lot of questions:

1) engine cc, engine hp, engine type (Edelbrock?)
2) Suspension type ?
3) brakes type ?

now your car is a little different, the ex owner repaint in yellow
with some stripes:



You've bought that car from mythoscars Italie? I saw that car on sale at www.autoscout.de the car with the stripes, they talk about a 6.3L with 600hp...
They also have a new Ultima GTR on sale a 2005 one...also 6.3 but then 550hp a nice black example(I like black) but asking price is 92.000,- can't handle that money
GTRene

mclark

582 posts

265 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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Hi Rene,

Can you email me a link to the black one please.

Thanks

Michael

luke.duke

Original Poster:

13 posts

312 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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Hello GTRene,

the one in mythos is other Ultima GTR yellow with 550, 600 hp.....
The black Ultima GTR is not available..

I bought my Ultima from a Mythos customer, but it was les expensive..

ciao ciao !



>> Edited by luke.duke on Wednesday 30th November 20:34