IRISH RACING GREEN!!!!
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up-the-dubs

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4,282 posts

259 months

Sunday 20th November 2005
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The petition starts here.

We at last have a place in motoring history.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Sunday 20th November 2005
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Gollocks...

PatHeald

8,058 posts

286 months

Sunday 20th November 2005
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I don't know about Irish Racing Green.

But I once saw this colour described as Irish Racing Brown...



Cheers

Pat

planetdave

9,922 posts

283 months

Sunday 20th November 2005
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Anything other than BRG is a pale imitation of the real thing


maybe Oirish Racing Black (with a cream roof)?

Kinky

39,944 posts

299 months

Sunday 20th November 2005
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up-the-dubs said:
... We at last have a place in motoring history.




And an appropriate coloured smiley too

K

up-the-dubs

Original Poster:

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Sunday 20th November 2005
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Kinky said:
up-the-dubs said:
... We at last have a place in motoring history.




And an appropriate coloured smiley too

K


hedders

24,460 posts

277 months

Sunday 20th November 2005
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My mechanic once described one of his customers car's to me as being Jewish Racing Gold

Eric Mc

125,742 posts

295 months

Sunday 20th November 2005
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Petition for what?

beano500

20,854 posts

305 months

Sunday 20th November 2005
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[Best Oirish Accent]

Well if you were wanting to start a pedition....



...Oi wouldn't be wanting to start from here....


[/Best Oirish Accent]



With apologies - no racism intended!

up-the-dubs

Original Poster:

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259 months

Sunday 20th November 2005
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Eric Mc said:
Petition for what?


For re-naming the colour. Top Gear went through the origions of BRG and it came from here! Green for Ireland.

speedy_thrills

7,960 posts

273 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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up-the-dubs said:
The petition starts here.

We at last have a place in motoring history.

Don’t teams originating in Ireland race in Banana yellow?

speedy_thrills

7,960 posts

273 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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up-the-dubs said:
Eric Mc said:
Petition for what?


For re-naming the colour. Top Gear went through the origions of BRG and it came from here! Green for Ireland.
No, Germany.

Have a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_racing_green

JMGS4

8,932 posts

300 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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speedy_thrills said:
up-the-dubs said:
Eric Mc said:
Petition for what?

For re-naming the colour. Top Gear went through the origions of BRG and it came from here! Green for Ireland.
No, Germany.Have a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_racing_green


Was mentioned speedy, however only within the context that the colours varied and that GB has used hannoverian hunting green as one of the shades..... after it originally was to honour the green isle Ireland when a GP had to go there because of a ridiculous (labour? greenslime? conservative?) speed limit of 12 mph!

hugoagogo

23,437 posts

263 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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beano500 said:
[Best Oirish Accent]

Well if you were wanting to start a pedition....



...Oi wouldn't be wanting to start from here....


[/Best Oirish Accent]



With apologies - no racism intended!


i don't think you meant any offence at all



at all, at all

Eric Mc

125,742 posts

295 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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The Irish origin of Racing Green has ben a source of debate for over 100 years now. The story is that when Britain hosted the 1903 Gordon Bennett Trophy races in 1903 (there were no GPs at that time) the races were held at a series of venues in Ireland (Phoenix Park, the Curragh, Athy etc). Ireland was chosen because racing on British public roads was not allowed (nothing to do with Labour - the law had been passed in the 1890s long before Labour were anywhere near government). It is often said that the British Napier cars entered were painted green in honour of the race being hosted by Ireland. In fact, Napier had painted their cars green the previous year when the races were held in France. Green appears to have been Napier's "hosuse" colours anyway - irresepective of venue. It was the fact that Napier had won the trophy in 1902 which determined that the races be held in "Britain" the following year.

The last Gordon Bennett Trophy races were held in 1905. The following year, the Automobile Club de France instigated a replacement race to be held in France called Le Grand Prix - the first GP.

tvrbob

11,197 posts

285 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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Germany wasn't silver originally. I think they took white. One year the turned up with unpainted (silver) cars and this became their country colour.

Fer

7,773 posts

310 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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hedders said:
My mechanic once described one of his customers car's to me as being Jewish Racing Gold



I had a Merc 500SEC in that colour. Very popular in Golders Green, so I am told.

up-the-dubs

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Monday 21st November 2005
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tvrbob said:
Germany wasn't silver originally. I think they took white. One year the turned up with unpainted (silver) cars and this became their country colour.


The cars were actually too heavy when painted, so they sanded the cars down before the race IIRC.

chim666

2,337 posts

295 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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tvrbob said:
Germany wasn't silver originally. I think they took white. One year the turned up with unpainted (silver) cars and this became their country colour.

Almost true. Mercedes Benz used to race in the German national colour of white, but owing to their cars exceeding the maximum weight for one particular race back in the '30s, they went to the extreme measure of removing all the paint and managed to get the cars down to the required weight - and at a stroke, the Silver Arrows were born.
Just seen up-the-dubs reply...must learn to type quicker!


>> Edited by chim666 on Monday 21st November 10:08

Eric Mc

125,742 posts

295 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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Actually, there is serious doubt over the "weight saving" theory. The story first emerged in Alfred Neubaur's "history" of running the Mercedes Grand Prix team pre-war which is full of factual errors and downright "made up stories". The general concensus now is that Mercedes AND Auto Union both decided that it was pointless painting their cars and that silver or natural aluminium looked better. Indeed, weren't some of the cars actualluy PAINTED aluminium, which sort of knocks the "weight saving" story on the head.

Try reading up on stuff written by Rudolph Uhlenhaut. He was the technical director of Mercedes and he is far more accurate in his recounting of their history compared to Neubaur.