Planning permission for a garden shed!!
Planning permission for a garden shed!!
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remal

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25,102 posts

264 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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What the F:censored:k

My grnadparents have built a new bunglow and I was going to put their garden shed up. But they have told me they could only get permission for a 6ft x 4ft shed

we are talking noamal B@Q wooden shed not a fancy brick one. Bloody South Gloucestershire Council

I cannot beleive how daft it is to need planning for a shed.

anyone delt with putting up a larger shed and not saying anything?

dick dastardly

8,326 posts

293 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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If you can't see it from the road then I'd just put it up anyway.

remal

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25,102 posts

264 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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cannot be seen from the road at all. but the grandparents are still worried

vixpy1

42,699 posts

294 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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Whack it up anyway.. they can only tell you to take it back down again

tonyvid

9,889 posts

273 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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Flog the shed plot in a sealed bit to the local Gypo's, in two days it will have its own road, plumbing, leccy and if you are lucky somewhere to tie a horse to - and the council won't bat an eyelid!

timmy30

9,325 posts

257 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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Sad isn't it.

Your grandparents survived a war against a totalitarian fascist regeime.

And then get to spend the last years of their lives worrying that if they put a shed in their own garden the authorities will come and arrest them or make them tear it down.

Nevin

2,999 posts

291 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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Agree with the above. Only problem will be if they want to sell it at some point, but then pensioners aren't that prone to moving houses often

trevorh

1,359 posts

314 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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IIRC a wooden shed is a temporary building and as such does not require planning permission.
(Tommy Walsh - Garden thingy whatever)

My boss built a large shed, which was limited to 4m height and 25% of the garden area, without PP.

>> Edited by trevorh on Thursday 20th October 16:03

speedy_thrills

7,956 posts

273 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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Just build the thing, the worst they can go is ask you to tear it down and I think there is prevision that even if they do find out about it you can still gain consent. Even the selling isn’t really an issue as long as you point out to the buyers the lack of planning permission.

Better still though get permission for the 6*6 shed and build it X * X feet, I don’t think they usually check any way.

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

279 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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timmy30 said:
Sad isn't it.

Your grandparents survived a war against a totalitarian fascist regeime.

And then get to spend the last years of their lives worrying that if they put a shed in their own garden the authorities will come and arrest them or make them tear it down.



Or measure it up and charge them more council tax.

Nevin

2,999 posts

291 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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speedy_thrills said:
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Better still though get permission for the 6*6 shed and build it X * X feet, I don’t think they usually check any way.


or say you thought the measurements were in metres. Now that would be some shed

timmy30

9,325 posts

257 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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ZR1cliff said:

timmy30 said:
Sad isn't it.

Your grandparents survived a war against a totalitarian fascist regeime.

And then get to spend the last years of their lives worrying that if they put a shed in their own garden the authorities will come and arrest them or make them tear it down.




Or measure it up and charge them more council tax.


But it doesn't even seem to occur to people anymore that having to apply for permission to put up a small shed or an extension to their own house in their own back garden that they have bought is wrong. Who the are the council to dictate like this?

Next you'll have to apply for permission to paint your house, or own a pet, or grow vegetables in the garden.

C C

8,054 posts

269 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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It all reminds me of a time CB radio was all the rage.
A young blind teenager had a set indoors and really enjoyed talking to other CB’ers passing his town. Trouble was he cloud not broadcast far because of his indoor aerial. His parents applied to build an aerial out side for him (I think it was a council house) but was refused. Meanwhile other folk nearby put them up anyway and no action was taken against them.
Who said honesty is the best policy was talking bollox as far as local councils are concerned.

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

279 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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timmy30 said:
Next you'll have to apply for permission to paint your house


In some preservation areas this already happens and also applies to window and door replacements.

Being a cab driver and having to come under their jurisdiction ime all to aware of how powerful local councils have become and boy do they take them selves serious.

timmy30

9,325 posts

257 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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ZR1cliff said:

timmy30 said:
Next you'll have to apply for permission to paint your house



In some preservation areas this already happens and also applies to window and door replacements.

Being a cab driver and having to come under their jurisdiction ime all to aware of how powerful local councils have become and boy do they take them selves serious.


they are amongst the worst, toy town politicians.

It'll be great when all the local councillor has to do if you piss him off is ask his friend the chief constable to have you arrested under one of the new 'suspicion of something' laws.

chrisgr31

14,282 posts

285 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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Is the house a listed building or in a conservation area? Just interested to know why it needed consent in the first place.

Balmoral Green

42,561 posts

278 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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ZR1cliff said:

all to aware of how powerful local councils have become and boy do they take them selves serious.

Quite often they are wrong too. Have a look at some local authority websites under 'Planning' or 'Building Regs' and you will find huge differences in what they say is and isnt allowed. Many local authorities will interpret the rules to suit themselves depending on how 'authoritarian' they are and what their own local agenda is.

It is well worth while going to the ODPM website and downloading the definitive documents on 'Planning' and 'Building Regulations'. Quite often you will be able to challenge your council as they will say you cant do something that you actually can, or vice versa.

Best one I have ever come across was when I was checking up if an old farm was listed. I rang the council and they said it was 'Locally listed' and we couldnt do anything to it at all. I later found out that it wasnt listed at all, the council just had it on their own 'wish list' but couldnt actually get it listed. So they were basically just suggesting it was listed and telling fibs.

Same with conservation areas, they will suggest to you that it has basis in law and they can control what you can and cant do, but actually it does not have any basis in law at all, you can do what you want. If you push and push and push, eventually you will get a planning officer to admit it.

>> Edited by Balmoral Green on Thursday 20th October 16:50

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

279 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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timmy30 said:

ZR1cliff said:


timmy30 said:
Next you'll have to apply for permission to paint your house




In some preservation areas this already happens and also applies to window and door replacements.

Being a cab driver and having to come under their jurisdiction ime all to aware of how powerful local councils have become and boy do they take them selves serious.



they are amongst the worst, toy town politicians.

It'll be great when all the local councillor has to do if you piss him off is ask his friend the chief constable to have you arrested under one of the new 'suspicion of something' laws.


A ha now you are talking a whole new can of worms...
Just recently the council allowed a construction Co to build some top class exeuctive flats right in the middle of town between the railway station and the town centre.

At nights revellers making their way to the taxi rank at the station from the town centre were disrupting the sleep of the new residents as the residents claimed/complained to the local council that the noise level was unnaceptable from a busy town centre.

The Council tried to get the local police involved to close all walkways,part of the town centre and the Station Taxi rank after a certain time...this was all due to go ahead and letters were sent out by the council instructing the cab drivers what they were going to do but the last i heard the police pulled out and didnt want to get involved.....WTF did the council give the planning permission for living accomodation in that area in the first place ?

hedders

24,460 posts

277 months

Thursday 20th October 2005
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C C said:
It all reminds me of a time CB radio was all the rage.
A young blind teenager had a set indoors and really enjoyed talking to other CB’ers passing his town. Trouble was he cloud not broadcast far because of his indoor aerial. His parents applied to build an aerial out side for him (I think it was a council house) but was refused.


AS a teen I spent my evenings on my CB chatting with all and sundry, I ended up befreinding a kid in the local hospital because he had a 40 channel handheld jobbie and could only speak to me and a few other people. He was wheelchair bound and the same age as me but stuck in hospital cos his parents 'couldn't' take care of him.

I also hooked up with some kids in a local foster home, they had a games room and a jukebox and a dedicated CB room. I remember being jealous at the time...