Darcus V Joan. Hilarious
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Mad American comedienne Joan Rivers and equally wacko Darcus Howe were on the Midweek programme on Radio 4 yesterday. What ensued was a huge row when Joan thought that Darcus had accused her of being a racist. I think it was a mix up caused by language (although Howe is prone to be sanctimonious) but it kicked off big time. Best thing I've heard on the Radio in ages.
If you want to hear it;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/midweek.shtml
Click on "Listen to the most recent midweek" and shuffle forward to about 22 mins 50 sec.
If you want to hear it;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/midweek.shtml
Click on "Listen to the most recent midweek" and shuffle forward to about 22 mins 50 sec.
I listened to it live too. I think Darcus Howe has got away with murder for too long. He threw his barbed comment at her after she pointed out that 'tribal wars' were not just a black/white thing but happened between all white and all black communities too. He's used to getting away with that kind of putdown because it's fashionable for white people to wear the hair shirt over all race issues. It's stupid - paints all black people as victims and builds barriers between communities.
Picked the wrong one with Joany though, didn't he?
Did you notice that after the spat, she got on with the show, but he never spoke again? Not even to say goodbye. I think he took his teddy and went home...
Saying that, I thought he was good when he did 'Devil's Advocate', but that was about 20 years ago now.
Picked the wrong one with Joany though, didn't he?
Did you notice that after the spat, she got on with the show, but he never spoke again? Not even to say goodbye. I think he took his teddy and went home...
Saying that, I thought he was good when he did 'Devil's Advocate', but that was about 20 years ago now.
Must admit I can't stand the man nowadays. Things have moved on since he started his career, and his approach to race relations does more to create tension than to engender openness. He certainly came across as someone who's not used to being questioned. I suspect he makes a nice living out of it though 
Eric Mc said:
Who is he (me being a philistine)?
He's a journalist/philosopher. He's got an incredible brain and I used to really admire him for his ability to analyse. But everything I've heard recently has been mealy-mouthed and self-indulgent. A couple of websites here:
www.blackinbritain.co.uk/AZfiles/DarkusHowe.htm
www.nalis.gov.tt/Biography/bio_DarcusHowe_BlackActivist-Journalist.htm
rude girl said:
Who is he (me being a philistine)?
He's a journalist/philosopher. He's got an incredible brain and I used to really admire him for his ability to analyse. But everything I've heard recently has been mealy-mouthed and self-indulgent. A couple of websites here:
www.blackinbritain.co.uk/AZfiles/DarkusHowe.htm
www.nalis.gov.tt/Biography/bio_DarcusHowe_BlackActivist-Journalist.htm
cant get sound on that file for some reason....whats the gist of it then?
You need RealPlayer to get 'listen again' from the BBC. I can record the bit if you want and mail it.
In essence, Darcus was promoting his new Channel 4 film and he said something about being persecuted by his (white) ex-wife. Joan said he was unfair because he was making his children choose between their black heritage and their white heritage. He obviously didn't like this because he later dropped in the line 'because black offends Joan'. She didn't just pick him up, she went off on one big style.
Not a funny subject, but a very funny exchange.
>> Edited by rude girl on Thursday 20th October 20:43
In essence, Darcus was promoting his new Channel 4 film and he said something about being persecuted by his (white) ex-wife. Joan said he was unfair because he was making his children choose between their black heritage and their white heritage. He obviously didn't like this because he later dropped in the line 'because black offends Joan'. She didn't just pick him up, she went off on one big style.
Not a funny subject, but a very funny exchange.
>> Edited by rude girl on Thursday 20th October 20:43
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