"Downsize" the Public Sector ?
Discussion
I get increasingly wound-up about the ever growing cost generated by the Public Sector - often doing "stuff" and employing people who add no real value ....or doing things inefficiently ..... this ultimately puts up the total tax burden.
What would YOU cut to make the public sector more efficient ?
FWIW I would chop :
1. Road Tax - replace the revenue with either an equivalent tax on fuel , and implement an MOT/Insurance disc ( when you get your car insured each year ). This would save all those unnecessary jobs at the DVLA.
2. TV License Fee : Loads of administrators and detectors are employed here : cut BBC funding by at least 10 % , save all the admin costs , and collect the balance via general taxation - saving ££m in admin.
3. Prison Service : contract this out to a 3rd world country - where prisoners can be housed and looked after more cheaply - this would also help the economies of various countries in Africa and Asia. This would save billions - who cares if the prisons are a bit uncomfortable.
What would YOU cut to make the public sector more efficient ?
FWIW I would chop :
1. Road Tax - replace the revenue with either an equivalent tax on fuel , and implement an MOT/Insurance disc ( when you get your car insured each year ). This would save all those unnecessary jobs at the DVLA.
2. TV License Fee : Loads of administrators and detectors are employed here : cut BBC funding by at least 10 % , save all the admin costs , and collect the balance via general taxation - saving ££m in admin.
3. Prison Service : contract this out to a 3rd world country - where prisoners can be housed and looked after more cheaply - this would also help the economies of various countries in Africa and Asia. This would save billions - who cares if the prisons are a bit uncomfortable.
OK once we've sacked all these spongers paid for by our taxes. What do they do then?
Go on the dole and get paid for by our taxes!
It is not like there are thousands of jobs in manufacturing waiting for them.
I don't generally disagree with the idea of smaller government but I've yet to see the plan for after they have been sacked.
Go on the dole and get paid for by our taxes!
It is not like there are thousands of jobs in manufacturing waiting for them.
I don't generally disagree with the idea of smaller government but I've yet to see the plan for after they have been sacked.
alfaman said:
3. Prison Service : contract this out to a 3rd world country - where prisoners can be housed and looked after more cheaply - this would also help the economies of various countries in Africa and Asia. This would save billions - who cares if the prisons are a bit uncomfortable.
I do agree with this point, think of the cost savings.
scorp said:
You might have a problem with unions though, i believe this is what is stopping Brown from cutting the extra fat off our civil services.
My impression is that Brown is completely in favour of Public Sector employment. Compare the drop in unemployment, and the significant increase in public sector jobs since labour got into power and.. what a coincidence. Labour as a whole believe in 'big' government as a significant part of the overall economy and a way of moderating our lives.
Hughesie2 said:
Lets get rid of the NHS as well whilst we're at it, then we could get rid of the police force, fire brigade and the Ambulance service as well...
The NHS could be replaced by private health care - its basically a system of post-war rationing in its current form and can't meet demand. I doubt that contracting -out Police / Fire / Ambulance to the 3rd World would work - response times may be a bit slow.
>> Edited by alfaman on Wednesday 19th October 13:09
Tuna said:
You might have a problem with unions though, i believe this is what is stopping Brown from cutting the extra fat off our civil services.
My impression is that Brown is completely in favour of Public Sector employment. Compare the drop in unemployment, and the significant increase in public sector jobs since labour got into power and.. what a coincidence. Labour as a whole believe in 'big' government as a significant part of the overall economy and a way of moderating our lives.
I agree, i might be mixing brown with blair, anyway one of them suggested cuttin back the public sector and got predictably threatened by the unions. I can't see how a huge public sector is sustainable really, im guessing the tax payers will be squeezed out of existance while the burgeoning public sector is kept in place.
Hughesie2 said:
Lets get rid of the NHS as well whilst we're at it, then we could get rid of the police force, fire brigade and the Ambulance service as well...
Well most of the nhs Management should go they are not needed.
We need to keep the police and the fire brigade. The ambulance service is largely contracted out to local taxi companies anyway. Only emergency ambulances are needed equipped with paramedics.
The rest of the civil service and local government officers are generally completely surplus to requirements. There are of course thousands of speed humps to be removed, speed cameras to be smashed and removed, new roads to be built, buses to be destroyed, cycle paths to be retarmaced, speed limit signs to be removed. The civil service should be put to work doing this. In addition we need some administration to sequestrate the assets of anti car charities and we need some crafts people to build the stocks so we can deal with Liberal democrat councils who are "off message".
Oh and while we are at it all schools should be private and the parents should get a governement grant to pay for the kids education, this would of course enable them to top up school fees.
Plotloss said:
To be honest, on day one of being in charge I would sack 50% of them indiscriminately.
The remain 50% would pick up the slack in fear of their (non) jobs
Umm, no, the remaining 50% would go on strike until you reinstated the sacked workers. You might need to make some union leaders 'disappear'
>> Edited by scorp on Wednesday 19th October 13:30
ers...Labour created another quarter of a million yes 250000 of these useless jobs and filled them with jobsworths just to ensure that the useless Labour ones in Parliament can fill their troughs again....useless and should all be eliminated or at least paid for what they do...i.e. nothing!!!!!
These scum are the ones who give rise to ASBOs being given to gardeners, who farm out criminals as parking wardens etc etc etc..... shoot the flickin lot of them!!!
>> Edited by JMGS4 on Wednesday 19th October 13:38
These scum are the ones who give rise to ASBOs being given to gardeners, who farm out criminals as parking wardens etc etc etc..... shoot the flickin lot of them!!!
>> Edited by JMGS4 on Wednesday 19th October 13:38
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