Chausser 7ltr V12 XJS
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Hi all,
I have taken in a car for storage, that the owner, who lives in the USA, wishes to find out more about, so he can decide to renovate or sell.
When he bought it several years ago, he was led to believe it was 1 of only 2 ever built.
The V5 states it started life, and still is,registered as a 5.3, however he was told it was a 7ltr.
I can't find a way to upload pictures, but the engine is in true Chausser Blue.
The main differences I can see at first glance are larger front brakes, a switch on the ski slope to adjust traction, and fuel lines which run through the a/c.
Despite being in storage (elsewhere) for several years, it starts and drives (sounds awsome), but needs the bodywork sorting out. Underneath/floor apparently is sound.
So I would appreciate any information anyone could give on its possible lineage.
Thanks in advance
Dave
I have taken in a car for storage, that the owner, who lives in the USA, wishes to find out more about, so he can decide to renovate or sell.
When he bought it several years ago, he was led to believe it was 1 of only 2 ever built.
The V5 states it started life, and still is,registered as a 5.3, however he was told it was a 7ltr.
I can't find a way to upload pictures, but the engine is in true Chausser Blue.
The main differences I can see at first glance are larger front brakes, a switch on the ski slope to adjust traction, and fuel lines which run through the a/c.
Despite being in storage (elsewhere) for several years, it starts and drives (sounds awsome), but needs the bodywork sorting out. Underneath/floor apparently is sound.
So I would appreciate any information anyone could give on its possible lineage.
Thanks in advance
Dave
Tis a rear beast indeed, I don't even recall seeing any articles of the time about an XJS chasseur V12, certainly I have read about & seen the straight six 4.0 XJS Chasseur and the XJ 40, both in Jag and Daimler trim, but never the XJS V12. Even Google is struggling to find photos of one....
Would be great to see some photos, especially the engine bay.
Would be great to see some photos, especially the engine bay.
https://1drv.ms/i/c/0e95f47670fed316/IQCkrdKuWFnTS...
https://1drv.ms/i/c/0e95f47670fed316/IQCv8wLgkwHLQ...
https://1drv.ms/i/c/0e95f47670fed316/IQDSKiw7ntLfS...
https://1drv.ms/i/c/0e95f47670fed316/IQA1qTUvfAn9R...
https://1drv.ms/i/c/0e95f47670fed316/IQC7C6G6La1UT...
https://1drv.ms/i/c/0e95f47670fed316/IQCUchcPHZW2T...
Hope these images work, but they confirm the following;
The rear number plate light panel/plinth was changed both for looks and aerodynamics apparently, the round gauges in the dash (years before Jaguar did it), the traction control knob next to the gear change where the cigarette lighter usually was, the wheels and brakes (haven't got it up on the ramp yet to see what the rears are), and the obvious engine inlet manifolds.
Apparently the diff is a Quaife item, and in the car is the mesh front grill with a 'STEALTH' badge on it. The fuel lines also run through the a/c system.
Dave
https://1drv.ms/i/c/0e95f47670fed316/IQCv8wLgkwHLQ...
https://1drv.ms/i/c/0e95f47670fed316/IQDSKiw7ntLfS...
https://1drv.ms/i/c/0e95f47670fed316/IQA1qTUvfAn9R...
https://1drv.ms/i/c/0e95f47670fed316/IQC7C6G6La1UT...
https://1drv.ms/i/c/0e95f47670fed316/IQCUchcPHZW2T...
Hope these images work, but they confirm the following;
The rear number plate light panel/plinth was changed both for looks and aerodynamics apparently, the round gauges in the dash (years before Jaguar did it), the traction control knob next to the gear change where the cigarette lighter usually was, the wheels and brakes (haven't got it up on the ramp yet to see what the rears are), and the obvious engine inlet manifolds.
Apparently the diff is a Quaife item, and in the car is the mesh front grill with a 'STEALTH' badge on it. The fuel lines also run through the a/c system.
Dave
Initially my thoughts were to transfer all the goodies to another car, however I've been told that won't be as easy as it sounds.
Considering it's been stored for the last 13/14 years, it's better than most. It runs and moves under its own power, and all the bits that have been removed are in the car.
Anything is possible with the right budget, the engine and management system on its own could be worth a tidy sum for someone to 'transplant'.
I don't know if the gearbox is the same 3 speeder as it left the factory with, I'd be interested to know if it could handle the power if that engine is indeed 7ltrs.
And the front bumper is the same as the white one above, and it has the same Porsche mirrors.
Dave
Considering it's been stored for the last 13/14 years, it's better than most. It runs and moves under its own power, and all the bits that have been removed are in the car.
Anything is possible with the right budget, the engine and management system on its own could be worth a tidy sum for someone to 'transplant'.
I don't know if the gearbox is the same 3 speeder as it left the factory with, I'd be interested to know if it could handle the power if that engine is indeed 7ltrs.
And the front bumper is the same as the white one above, and it has the same Porsche mirrors.
Dave
Edited by CowShedDave on Tuesday 27th October 17:10
This link takes you to the information request the owner made, when he first got it.
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/xjs-x27-32/jagu...
Dave
CowShedDave said:
Initially my thoughts were to transfer all the goodies to another car, however I've been told that won't be as easy as it sounds.
Considering it's been stored for the last 13/14 years, it's better than most. It runs and moves under its own power, and all the bits that have been removed are in the car.
Anything is possible with the right budget, the engine and management system on its own could be worth a tidy sum for someone to 'transplant'.
I don't know if the gearbox is the same 3 speeder as it left the factory with, I'd be interested to know if it could handle the power if that engine is indeed 7ltrs.
And the front bumper is the same as the white one above, and it has the same Porsche mirrors.
Dave
Not surprised it runs, they're reasonably easy to get running on at least some cylinders and are solid engines (despite some flaws). Considering it's been stored for the last 13/14 years, it's better than most. It runs and moves under its own power, and all the bits that have been removed are in the car.
Anything is possible with the right budget, the engine and management system on its own could be worth a tidy sum for someone to 'transplant'.
I don't know if the gearbox is the same 3 speeder as it left the factory with, I'd be interested to know if it could handle the power if that engine is indeed 7ltrs.
And the front bumper is the same as the white one above, and it has the same Porsche mirrors.
Dave
Edited by CowShedDave on Tuesday 27th October 17:10
You're completely correct that anything is possible with the correct budget, but XJ-S values rarely make it worth restoring unless it is something with recognised value (ie an Eventer or a Lister), not sure Chasseur has the same recognition as they're rare. That doesn't mean it isn't worth doing, just a limited market for it.
With the idea of moving the goodies to another car, sounds reasonable, but also dinks the value as not being the original car but just one with those parts fitted. It loses something of the history which is a selling point at the moment (everyone loves a story).
I would expect the gearbox is the same one from factory. Interesting it wasn't manual converted.
Need to look up the management system as I can't remember what Chasseur used, but could be a problem as well as a benefit if it is difficult to repair. Some modified XJ-S are now moving to modern systems which is potentially an option for this.
I do like it very much, though!
Some more info for those as intrigued as me.
Although I can't quite see the actual number on the engine, the V5 shows a number that although is printed as you would expect it to be, it is slightly out of line and also in slightly smaller text.
As it was first registered in 1988, the car should be, and the V5 says, it is an H.E. model, but the engine number is that of an early pre H.E. type, 8S059492HA.
Apparently it is these pre H.E. engines that were best for tuning.
So I am deducing from this, that the engine is not standard, however it's actual capacity still not determined.
Dave
Although I can't quite see the actual number on the engine, the V5 shows a number that although is printed as you would expect it to be, it is slightly out of line and also in slightly smaller text.
As it was first registered in 1988, the car should be, and the V5 says, it is an H.E. model, but the engine number is that of an early pre H.E. type, 8S059492HA.
Apparently it is these pre H.E. engines that were best for tuning.
So I am deducing from this, that the engine is not standard, however it's actual capacity still not determined.
Dave
Just found out that DVLA have on several occasions added a 0 to engine numbers when asked to change them on their records.
This might explain why this V5 engine number has an extra digit, and so the actual number might be 8S59492HA which makes it an H.E.!
Dave
This might explain why this V5 engine number has an extra digit, and so the actual number might be 8S59492HA which makes it an H.E.!
Dave
Edited by CowShedDave on Thursday 29th October 18:39
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