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shed driver

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3,091 posts

190 months

Monday 19th October
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Whilst at a local meeting yesterday this beauty arrived.

Never seen one before, but I think I'm in love.



SD.

Turbobanana

8,495 posts

231 months

Monday 19th October
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Isn't it called a COE, or Cab Over Engine? I've seen "Cabover" too.

Really interesting aesthetic, and I wonder what it's like sitting that high up directly over your heat source.

shed driver

Original Poster:

3,091 posts

190 months

Monday 19th October
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This was apparently a Ford C series from 1946. I'll see if I can get a few more pictures.

The owner said it was a bit noisy, but a great view of the road.

SD.

shed driver

Original Poster:

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BobCD

14 posts

6 months

Monday 19th October
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As Turbobanana says, it's a cabover as in Cab Over Engine, as in 'cabover Pete with a reefer on and a jimmy haulin' hogs' from the song Convoy by C W McCall. The reefer, Google tells me, refers to a refrigerated semitrailer, not a jacket. The 'Pete' refers to Peterbilt who made two cabover models and the 'reefer on' means that the refrigeration motor was running and no, I'm not an expert, just looked it up on Google.

Edited by BobCD on Monday 19th October 16:17

spitfire-ian

4,246 posts

258 months

Monday 19th October
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BobCD said:
As Turbobanana says, it's a cabover as in Cab Over Engine, as in 'cabover Pete with a reefer on and a jimmy haulin' hogs' from the song Convoy by C W McCall. The reefer, Google tells me, refers to a refrigerated semitrailer, not a jacket. The 'Pete' refers to Peterbilt who made two cabover models and the 'reefer on' means that the refrigeration motor was running and no, I'm not an expert, just looked it up on Google.

Edited by BobCD on Monday 19th October 16:17
Indeed.



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T6 vanman

3,560 posts

129 months

Monday 19th October
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spitfire-ian said:
BobCD said:
As Turbobanana says, it's a cabover as in Cab Over Engine, as in 'cabover Pete with a reefer on and a jimmy haulin' hogs' from the song Convoy by C W McCall. The reefer, Google tells me, refers to a refrigerated semitrailer, not a jacket. The 'Pete' refers to Peterbilt who made two cabover models and the 'reefer on' means that the refrigeration motor was running and no, I'm not an expert, just looked it up on Google.

Edited by BobCD on Monday 19th October 16:17
Indeed.



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Ain't she a beautiful sight hehe

nismocat

977 posts

38 months

Monday 19th October
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All European and UK trucks are cab over. They are not that interesting to look at but very practical. The US ones are the opposite.

This looks cool.

gt40steve

1,451 posts

134 months

Monday 19th October
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If a normal Land Rover isn't unpleasant enough get one of these.

markymarkthree

3,691 posts

201 months

Monday 19th October
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nismocat said:
All European and UK trucks are cab over. They are not that interesting to look at but very practical. The US ones are the opposite.

This looks cool.
What about the Scania T series ?

markymarkthree

3,691 posts

201 months

Monday 19th October
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BobCD said:
As Turbobanana says, it's a cabover as in Cab Over Engine, as in 'cabover Pete with a reefer on and a jimmy haulin' hogs' from the song Convoy by C W McCall. The reefer, Google tells me, refers to a refrigerated semitrailer, not a jacket. The 'Pete' refers to Peterbilt who made two cabover models and the 'reefer on' means that the refrigeration motor was running and no, I'm not an expert, just looked it up on Google.

Edited by BobCD on Monday 19th October 16:17
And don't forget the Jimmy (GMC truck).

MC Bodge

29,901 posts

205 months

Monday 19th October
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gt40steve said:
If a normal Land Rover isn't unpleasant enough get one of these.


2xChevrons

4,683 posts

110 months

Monday 19th October
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All the Big Three did cabover trucks until the rule changes removed their market niche.





GMC did a short-wheelbase fifth-wheel version of its cabover truck, known as the Cannonball, for obvious reasons:



You could get them with a Detroit 6-71, which must have been quite brisk (and noisy!)


BobCD

14 posts

6 months

Monday 19th October
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Is the 6-71 the engine referred to in the GMC nickname Jimmy? The reason the GMC truck at the time was called a Jimmy was because it was a 'screaming Jimmy', the engine was a two-stroke diesel with a high engine note, hence the screaming bit. Enjoying this rabbit hole!

2xChevrons

4,683 posts

110 months

Monday 19th October
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BobCD said:
Is the 6-71 the engine referred to in the GMC nickname Jimmy? The reason the GMC truck at the time was called a Jimmy was because it was a 'screaming Jimmy', the engine was a two-stroke diesel with a high engine note, hence the screaming bit. Enjoying this rabbit hole!
Yeah, Detroit was the automotive diesel division of GM, making a range of related 2-stroke Roots-blown diesels. All Detroits are "Screaming Jimmys" but the 6-71 was the most popular and widely fitted in all sorts of buses and trucks in America, both from GM marques and independents, so it in particular gets called that.

Some of the big rigs came with the option of a 12V-71, so a V12 'Screaming Jimmy'.

As well as being 2-strokes (so they sound twice as fast as they're actually spinning), and 'blown' (and sometimes turbocharged as well), they also make most of their torque at relatively high rpm, hence why they have to 'scream' to get the best out of them:

Like this example of a GMC Cannonball with a rather fruity exhaust:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbx9aalrLI0

MC Bodge

29,901 posts

205 months

Monday 19th October
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BobCD said:
Is the 6-71 the engine referred to in the GMC nickname Jimmy? The reason the GMC truck at the time was called a Jimmy was because it was a 'screaming Jimmy', the engine was a two-stroke diesel with a high engine note, hence the screaming bit. Enjoying this rabbit hole!
The exhaust fumes must have been horrendous!

2xChevrons

4,683 posts

110 months

Monday 19th October
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MC Bodge said:
The exhaust fumes must have been horrendous!
No more horrendous than any other old diesel (in fact, usually a bit better because the blower means there's always a good supply of air).

Detroits (like most other 2-stroke diesels) aren't like your hedge-trimmer or British Seagull or Trabant engine. They don't mix their oil with their fuel and don't aspirate through their crankcases. They even have valves, albeit only on the exhaust side.

mac96

6,590 posts

173 months

Monday 19th October
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markymarkthree said:
BobCD said:
As Turbobanana says, it's a cabover as in Cab Over Engine, as in 'cabover Pete with a reefer on and a jimmy haulin' hogs' from the song Convoy by C W McCall. The reefer, Google tells me, refers to a refrigerated semitrailer, not a jacket. The 'Pete' refers to Peterbilt who made two cabover models and the 'reefer on' means that the refrigeration motor was running and no, I'm not an expert, just looked it up on Google.

Edited by BobCD on Monday 19th October 16:17
And don't forget the Jimmy (GMC truck).
I always thought 'with a reefer on' meant towing a refrigerated trailer, not that the refrigeration was working at that moment. Anyway, don't forget the long haired friends of Jesus in the VW Microbus.smile

BobCD

14 posts

6 months

Monday 19th October
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Chartreuse - pronounced Chartrusse - Microbus, no mention of VW (maybe they didn't contribute)

mac96

6,590 posts

173 months

Monday 19th October
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BobCD said:
Chartreuse - pronounced Chartrusse - Microbus, no mention of VW (maybe they didn't contribute)
I stand corrected!