Surestop

[hairykrishna]

Do not under any circumstances fit one of these bd things;

[B'stard Child]

hairykrishna said:

Do not under any circumstances fit one of these bd things;

At least give us a clue why???

[B'stard Child]

Trust Pilot reviews are "interesting" seems a even split between "brilliant product" and "utter rubbish" with a light smattering of reviews in between!!!

[hairykrishna]

Because they'll end up leaking in a really inaccessible location and you'll have to cobble together a bodge to get the water back on from whatever fittings you can find in the garage on a Friday evening. While swearing profusely.

Clever idea spoiled by the implementation.

[hairykrishna]

B'stard Child said:

Trust Pilot reviews are "interesting" seems a even split between "brilliant product" and "utter rubbish" with a light smattering of reviews in between!!!

It hasn't failed and half flooded the kitchen for the 'brilliant' ones. Yet.

[Pheo]

I have one of these… should I be concerned then? What’s the failure mode?

[hairykrishna]

It started leaking inside the plastic casing. Seems fairly common from what I can gather.

[fourstardan]

I considered getting one of these so thanks...lol

[JoshSm]

The idea isn't too bad, it's a common enough idea on lots of machines as Aquastop or whatever.

Problem is their implentation is cheap crap. A good solenoid valve should never leak, though I have had one burst.

But even the 'good' ones tend to fail, often by getting stuck.

[TheDrownedApe]

We had one fitted a couple of years ago as the main stop was inaccessible. Accidentally stopped tne flow a couple of times but no issues.....as yet.

[Pheo]

Mines been installed since 2018. Now got me down rabbit holes of HA controlled ball valves!

[hairykrishna]

JoshSm said:

The idea isn't too bad, it's a common enough idea on lots of machines as Aquastop or whatever.

Problem is their implentation is cheap crap. A good solenoid valve should never leak, though I have had one burst.

But even the 'good' ones tend to fail, often by getting stuck.

Exactly. The idea is really good, implementation terrible.

[hairykrishna]

Pheo said:

Mines been installed since 2018. Now got me down rabbit holes of HA controlled ball valves!

I'd say a proper solid solenoid valve would be much better.

Your Surestop might be fine if course. I'd never trust one again though. Just thankful we were in and spotted the puddle!

[fourstardan]

I've just done some big boy work on my plumbing for mains feed with a stopcock replacement and then a water softner and the whole design of mains is rather flawed and lacking any technology still.

-We could get better identification of leaks at the outside mains line if it had decent monitoring on there available to us. We have a shared stopcock box, no way im jumping in there all the time to see if I've got leaks. A link up via wifi would be good one day.
-Water companies on new builds should be seeking leak detection solutions full stop, costs the insurers a lot of money
-My mains has a drain next to it, Why don't mains that come into a property have a drain off solution beneath it if it ever bursts/leaks at this point?

One thing I'll be doing as well is turning my mains into the property off at the stopcock. Never thought about this before but I know my luck!

[blueg33]

Ours has been in place for 10 years. No issues.

We have used them in our new build supported living 300 or so apartments per year since 2010. No major issues, the odd installation error but you get that with plumbing anyway

[hairykrishna]

blueg33 said:

Ours has been in place for 10 years. No issues.

We have used them in our new build supported living 300 or so apartments per year since 2010. No major issues, the odd installation error but you get that with plumbing anyway

Fair enough - you clearly have much more experience with them than me. Obviously I got a duff one. A browse of the online reviews suggests I'm far from the only one though.