New build house - building inspector sign off.?
New build house - building inspector sign off.?
Author
Discussion

ED209

Original Poster:

6,026 posts

274 months

Monday 21st September
quotequote all
Been looking at new builds recently and the house style we like has an island in the kitchen. We feel that the kitchen would be far more useable without the island so asked the builder if they could leave the island out and slightly change the kitchen layout if we were to purchase a house.

The builder claims they can’t do this because the council building inspector would refuse to sign the house off due to it not being to plan. Anyone know if this is correct? Or is it just a fob off from the builder?

I don’t believe that a planning permission for a house would be as detailed as stipulating that the kitchen must have an island.

kiethton

14,660 posts

210 months

Monday 21st September
quotequote all
Likely a bit more to this;

- What services are in the island - hob, dishwasher, sink?- - How far are you from house completion - if soon the services for above are likely already run
- standardisation - a lot of new builds are standardised so harder to chop too much around

They're giving an excuse for not doing a lot more work.

alscar

10,012 posts

243 months

Monday 21st September
quotequote all
Sounds a complete fob off to me.
I think a kitchen island is usually considered as part of the f &f / cosmetic choice rather than anything to do with building regs and I’d be surprised if said inspector would either worry or care.
I’m sure if you said it’s a deal breaker and without the island you’d buy they would try and accommodate.

smokey mow

1,409 posts

230 months

Monday 21st September
quotequote all
Possibly true if planning requirements dictate compliance with a category M4(3) accessible or adaptable standard as this imposes requirements as to the minimum length land worktop space.

In reality though they probably just don t want to change it, particularly if you suddenly decide at the last minute to pull out of the purchase as it would make the property less saleable.

98elise

32,730 posts

191 months

Monday 21st September
quotequote all
ED209 said:
Been looking at new builds recently and the house style we like has an island in the kitchen. We feel that the kitchen would be far more useable without the island so asked the builder if they could leave the island out and slightly change the kitchen layout if we were to purchase a house.

The builder claims they can t do this because the council building inspector would refuse to sign the house off due to it not being to plan. Anyone know if this is correct? Or is it just a fob off from the builder?

I don t believe that a planning permission for a house would be as detailed as stipulating that the kitchen must have an island.
I find it hard to believe as well.

I suspect the issue is that they are building to a set of agreed drawings, and any late changes could lead to screw ups with the various trades. Its just too much hassle to make sure everyone knows about the changes.

My brother bought a new build and had a similar srory. It had a utility room with the end partitioned as a larder cupboard. Some identical houses on the same development had a bigger utility and no larder, so he asked them to build his that way. They gave the same excuse. He ended up ripping the larder cupboard out himself.

ED209

Original Poster:

6,026 posts

274 months

Monday 21st September
quotequote all
98elise said:
I find it hard to believe as well.

I suspect the issue is that they are building to a set of agreed drawings, and any late changes could lead to screw ups with the various trades. Its just too much hassle to make sure everyone knows about the changes.

My brother bought a new build and had a similar srory. It had a utility room with the end partitioned as a larder cupboard. Some identical houses on the same development had a bigger utility and no larder, so he asked them to build his that way. They gave the same excuse. He ended up ripping the larder cupboard out himself.
I suspect ripping the island out and adjusting the kitchen bench how we would want it would be the answer. Seems a stupid waste of time and money though.

The Three D Mucketeer

7,492 posts

257 months

Monday 21st September
quotequote all
Funny .. I've bought two new build houses in the past and never been offered a Building Inspectors Signoff report.... If you buy it make sure you ask for a copy hehe

98elise

32,730 posts

191 months

Monday 21st September
quotequote all
ED209 said:
98elise said:
I find it hard to believe as well.

I suspect the issue is that they are building to a set of agreed drawings, and any late changes could lead to screw ups with the various trades. Its just too much hassle to make sure everyone knows about the changes.

My brother bought a new build and had a similar srory. It had a utility room with the end partitioned as a larder cupboard. Some identical houses on the same development had a bigger utility and no larder, so he asked them to build his that way. They gave the same excuse. He ended up ripping the larder cupboard out himself.
I suspect ripping the island out and adjusting the kitchen bench how we would want it would be the answer. Seems a stupid waste of time and money though.
Agree its a waste of time, The paint was barely dry in my brothers place when he started demolishing the wall. It came down the first week he was in.

Sheepshanks

41,219 posts

149 months

Monday 21st September
quotequote all
I thought they signed off one of each house type and the rest were assumed to be OK.

If that's true, then it could be they can't vary from the reference signed off spec?

POIDH

3,839 posts

95 months

Monday 21st September
quotequote all
I'm 11 months into a new build. I got it after someone else dropped out
Developer refused to allow upgrade to tiles (from 1/2 tiled to full wall tiled) or upgrade to add a shower in main bathroom. The house at this stage was bare plasterboards and first fix.
Transpires that the shower wall has been built with stud and block RIGHT where the shower would be mounted and that the under bath plumbing was rather tight, so needing a proper refit to fit in the space. This then is why they didn't want to fit a shower.
Why the heck they would not allow us to pay for tile upgrade, I've no idea.
I think they just like to bang out houses, there's subby contracts signed months ahead which then cannot be varied, and I bet they've been burned before by awkward customers.

bobtail4x4

4,431 posts

139 months

Monday 21st September
quotequote all
its part of the regs that a kitchen sink is provided,

a temporary one will pass,

ohh and EACH house should be signed off, ok one in ten may be air pressure tested,

Fastpedeller

4,367 posts

176 months

Thursday 24th September
quotequote all
Be very aware if there is any plumbing to a central island in a kitchen! I'm retired, but a few years ago a customer had an island with a sink in it - the waste pipe was routed through the floor, and inevitably it blocked frequently but to replace it would have involved some excavation!

Terminator X

20,835 posts

234 months

Thursday 24th September
quotequote all
ED209 said:
Been looking at new builds recently and the house style we like has an island in the kitchen. We feel that the kitchen would be far more useable without the island so asked the builder if they could leave the island out and slightly change the kitchen layout if we were to purchase a house.

The builder claims they can t do this because the council building inspector would refuse to sign the house off due to it not being to plan. Anyone know if this is correct? Or is it just a fob off from the builder?

I don t believe that a planning permission for a house would be as detailed as stipulating that the kitchen must have an island.
No one cares about the internal layout(s). B Regs inspector will just want it built to current B Regs.

Sounds to me like the builder CBA.

TX.