Tenants - do you just get lumbered with roof repair etc cost
Tenants - do you just get lumbered with roof repair etc cost
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Terminator X

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20,838 posts

234 months

Tuesday 15th September
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Not me but an Aunt in her 90's, just got a letter saying that they need to inspect and/or remove asbestos throughout the property^. It doesn't specifically say she will be liable on a %age basis however I assume that is why they have written to her / all of them.

^perhaps 30 tenants

Can you do anything about this or is it a fait accompli that payment will be due?

TX.

MrBen.911

664 posts

148 months

Tuesday 15th September
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Do you mean tenants or leaseholders?

Residential tenants are usually only responsible for paying their rent and cost of any damage they cause. Leaseholders would often be responsible for their proportion of maintenance costs of the building.

Consigliere

412 posts

71 months

Tuesday 15th September
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MrBen.911 said:
Do you mean tenants or leaseholders?

Residential tenants are usually only responsible for paying their rent and cost of any damage they cause. Leaseholders would often be responsible for their proportion of maintenance costs of the building.
What he said, however, once leaseholders front up the cash for the repairs, the rents seem to go up fairly quickly after.

dave123456

4,012 posts

177 months

Tuesday 15th September
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I’ve a flat in a block of 10 and in all likelihood she will have to pay her share.

Frustratingly a lot of cost over the last 3-4 years has been driven by the one owner who lets his flat as a holiday let, as he wants to fully comply with every regulation going. But costs of updating to fire regs has been expensive.

Terminator X

Original Poster:

20,838 posts

234 months

Tuesday 15th September
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Consigliere said:
MrBen.911 said:
Do you mean tenants or leaseholders?

Residential tenants are usually only responsible for paying their rent and cost of any damage they cause. Leaseholders would often be responsible for their proportion of maintenance costs of the building.
What he said, however, once leaseholders front up the cash for the repairs, the rents seem to go up fairly quickly after.
She is aged and only gets the state pension so I'm assuming a tenant vs a leaseholder. She's never "owned" a house or anything afaik.

TX.

98elise

32,732 posts

191 months

Tuesday 15th September
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Terminator X said:
Consigliere said:
MrBen.911 said:
Do you mean tenants or leaseholders?

Residential tenants are usually only responsible for paying their rent and cost of any damage they cause. Leaseholders would often be responsible for their proportion of maintenance costs of the building.
What he said, however, once leaseholders front up the cash for the repairs, the rents seem to go up fairly quickly after.
She is aged and only gets the state pension so I'm assuming a tenant vs a leaseholder. She's never "owned" a house or anything afaik.

TX.
It would be very unusual for a tenant to be liable for any building fabric repairs. In the majority of cases the building freeholder will organise the work, but the leaseholders (flat owners) would be liable for a % share the cost.

Terminator X

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20,838 posts

234 months

Tuesday 15th September
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98elise said:
It would be very unusual for a tenant to be liable for any building fabric repairs. In the majority of cases the building freeholder will organise the work, but the leaseholders (flat owners) would be liable for a % share the cost.
Ok thanks for that. Interesting as to why they've written to her, perhaps just to confirm that asbestos work may happen at some point.

The letter is all very "legal". I might post it up just to see what people think.

TX.

Jamescrs

6,471 posts

95 months

Tuesday 15th September
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If she is simply renting a flat as you suggest I would assume it is simply the landlord having to provide notice that works are to take place, and likely a legal requirement that the landlord has to notify the tenants a period of time before the works can commence

Ham_and_Jam

3,721 posts

127 months

Tuesday 15th September
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Terminator X said:
Ok thanks for that. Interesting as to why they've written to her, perhaps just tto confirm that asbestos work may happen at some point.

The letter is all very "legal". I might post it up just to see what people think.

TX.
I think if she is liable for any significant costs attributed to this they would have issued a section 20 notice.

I’ve had one recently for replacing the double glazing in the block of our tenanted properties. They have to go through a formal consultation process.

https://tvedwards.com/news-and-blogs/blogs/underst...

Edited by Ham_and_Jam on Tuesday 15th September 17:46

98elise

32,732 posts

191 months

Tuesday 15th September
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Terminator X said:
98elise said:
It would be very unusual for a tenant to be liable for any building fabric repairs. In the majority of cases the building freeholder will organise the work, but the leaseholders (flat owners) would be liable for a % share the cost.
Ok thanks for that. Interesting as to why they've written to her, perhaps just to confirm that asbestos work may happen at some point.

The letter is all very "legal". I might post it up just to see what people think.

TX.
Given its asbestos removal I suspect they have to notify the occupiers, not just the freeholder or leaseholder. The occupiers are the ones who will be be at most risk (or inconvenience) from any work.

nwmlarge1

18 posts

4 months

Wednesday 16th September
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is it a section 20 ?

Ham_and_Jam

3,721 posts

127 months

Wednesday 16th September
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nwmlarge1 said:
is it a section 20 ?
Already mentioned 3 posts up. No answer as yet

nikaiyo2

5,973 posts

225 months

Wednesday 16th September
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A tenant would not usually have any obligation to pay maintenance or repairs unless its part rent part buy or I think some odd retirement/ old folks places.

I would guess it’s simply notification of works.

Landlubber

1,642 posts

79 months

Wednesday 16th September
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nikaiyo2 said:
A tenant would not usually have any obligation to pay maintenance or repairs unless its part rent part buy or I think some odd retirement/ old folks places.

I would guess it s simply notification of works.
Yes, but anything to do with asbestos gets very disruptive.

Kevmo1969

23 posts

11 months

Thursday 17th September
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It sounds to me like they are looking at having a management survey carried out. They will then look at this and determine the best course of action for any asbestos present, it may be that anything found is in good condition and will not need any work carried out. On the other hand, could be very disruptive if any removal work is then found to be required.

Terminator X

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20,838 posts

234 months

Thursday 17th September
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Ham_and_Jam said:
nwmlarge1 said:
is it a section 20 ?
Already mentioned 3 posts up. No answer as yet
I'll get a copy of the paperwork. Only see her once a week ish.

TX.