Buying watches from European dealers
Buying watches from European dealers
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Adam.

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29,724 posts

284 months

Sunday 13th September
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Looking for an Omega and seen a few of the model I am after in Switzerland, great discount on UK price.

Assume the dealers have to declare the full value so I get hit with import duty and VAT?

Watch is £4300, UK price £6200

Alternative is flying over but only worth it if they are based in a city I can easily fly to

BlackTails

3,951 posts

85 months

Sunday 13th September
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Yep. Assuming it’s steel, it’s 4.5% on top of £4300 = 4494

Then add the courier cost and insurance paid by the seller (say £50?) and put 20% on that = 5542. Then assume another 50 in admin and handling by the UK importer side of the counter. Say 5600 total.

Or more simply just add about 25% to the foreign price. and you’re more or less in the right area.

If you go there to buy it, no doubt you know you should be using the red channel to declare it, and paying the 4.5% plus VAT on the total. Chances are you won’t get stopped going through the green channel, but you can never guarantee it. You’ll get told you can post the packaging, warranty cards, receipt etc home so you’re not carrying them. OTOH HMRC have access to serial numbers of watches retailed in the U.K.

Tax sucks hoop.

Have you considered used on say chrono24 or the like?

Adam.

Original Poster:

29,724 posts

284 months

Monday 14th September
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Yes next stop is used or a UK dealer who can obtain a good discount

UKsandman

3,378 posts

168 months

Monday 14th September
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BlackTails said:
Yep. Assuming it s steel, it s 4.5% on top of £4300 = 4494

Then add the courier cost and insurance paid by the seller (say £50?) and put 20% on that = 5542. Then assume another 50 in admin and handling by the UK importer side of the counter. Say 5600 total.

Or more simply just add about 25% to the foreign price. and you re more or less in the right area.

If you go there to buy it, no doubt you know you should be using the red channel to declare it, and paying the 4.5% plus VAT on the total. Chances are you won t get stopped going through the green channel, but you can never guarantee it. You ll get told you can post the packaging, warranty cards, receipt etc home so you re not carrying them. OTOH HMRC have access to serial numbers of watches retailed in the U.K.

Tax sucks hoop.

Have you considered used on say chrono24 or the like?
Have things changed recently? I imported a watch recently and there was no import duty. Well technically the import duty is £0.20 but as that below the threshold for collection it is not applied. All you should have to pay is 20% VAT.

https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/headings/9...

Dimebars

1,081 posts

124 months

Monday 14th September
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You should get a decent discount on Omega

And try Dom Hackett

popeyewhite

23,085 posts

150 months

Sunday 20th September
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Adam. said:
Looking for an Omega and seen a few of the model I am after in Switzerland, great discount on UK price.

Assume the dealers have to declare the full value so I get hit with import duty and VAT?

Watch is £4300, UK price £6200

Alternative is flying over but only worth it if they are based in a city I can easily fly to
Geneva flights can be dirt cheap.

Import it and you'll pay 20% VAT, thus cancelling out a portion of your savings.

Buy it here and you'll get better peace of mind if something goes wrong however.

I've bought twice from the East, both much much cheaper than UK, even after added VAT. One watch was excellent, the other I had to return which was a complete pain.

In your shoes I'd go over if it's Geneva/airport doable, do your due diligence in the shop, and fly back with it. Have a sunny weekend!



Adam.

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29,724 posts

284 months

Monday 21st September
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The Swiss dealer had no premises in a city, so reverted to my usual trusted supply channel, aka Dom

Pedro25

412 posts

60 months

Monday 21st September
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I went to Geneva in Jan this year, every watch maker is represented in a street overlooking the lake. Flew from Newcastle, just over an hours flight. Loved the place especially the watch shops, My Mrs wasn’t as impressed no surprise there 😂

Maxym

3,035 posts

266 months

Monday 21st September
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I think I got 15pc off an Omega Seamaster Professional some years back. That was at Goldsmiths. No way pay list!

Adam.

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29,724 posts

284 months

Tuesday 22nd September
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Maxym said:
I think I got 15pc off an Omega Seamaster Professional some years back. That was at Goldsmiths. No way pay list!
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