How do I add another plug socket?
How do I add another plug socket?
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Andeh1

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7,609 posts

236 months

Sunday 13th September
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I have a socket at normal height, but it's below my desk and a real faff to plug and unplug things into. I've spent the last couple years with an extension lead sat on my desk but it looks untidy.

I would like to therefore install a double socket in the wall, above my desk, directly in line with the socket below.

It's a new build houses so the cable runs vertically upwards, behind metal sheathing. We built the house over a number of years, so I know how it's all laid out.

Id like to cut out the plasterboard snip out the metal sheath to access the cable, but the cable is obviously going to be reasonably taught, and with the metal sheath pinning it to the wall blocked from letting me rerun a cable from new socket back down to original socket.

Is there any useful tips or approaches, for splicing into the cable to allow me to install an additional socket?

Thanks

Belle427

11,977 posts

263 months

Sunday 13th September
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Any reason you want to keep the socket below?
Usual procedure as you say is to expose the cables back to the new location and chop a new box in.
You mention plasterboard, is it a solid or hollow wall?

Paul Drawmer

5,162 posts

297 months

Sunday 13th September
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I electrified my desk instead.
I have a bank of sockets on a board at the rear of my desk. they are powered from a single lead to a plug. It's all low power devices, so there's a 5amp fuse in the plug.
Half of the sockets are always live (charger adaptors, network switch). The other half are through a single switch so I can switch off without crawling on the floor. (computer, printer, amp etc) It's all fixed to the back side of the desk, I can reach the switch, but none of it is visible.

Andeh1

Original Poster:

7,609 posts

236 months

Sunday 13th September
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The one below is useful for a printer and a few bits that stay plugged in all the time.

It's a plasterboard wall, so I may get lucky with where the dabs are to rerun a new cable, is just like to think through my different options before I commit!


David_M

487 posts

80 months

Sunday 13th September
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Why not just get a desktop extension?

Like this, for example, but they come in all shapes and sizes:

https://www.kenable.co.uk/networking/power-distrib...

Belle427

11,977 posts

263 months

Sunday 13th September
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There are probably some easier desk mounted solutions around these days to be honest to save you the hassle of the work but dot and dab is fairly easy to work on really.

Pit Pony

11,416 posts

151 months

Sunday 13th September
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For some reason we didn't have any sockets on the wall where the head of our bed sits, do no way yo plugging phones on bedside lights.

But on other side of the wall was a double socket.

Next door is an electrician so I got him to fit a spur.

Could have done it myself but CBA.

Good job because he had to offset it as the wall is too thin to put sockets back to back.

Basically the cable for the spur crosses through the wall at an angle.



lrdisco

1,741 posts

117 months

Sunday 13th September
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You will often find spare cable at the top of the wall. Pull gently at the cable and if there is slack it will pull down. Or just get the desk solution. It’s what I’ve done in my very new build.

OutInTheShed

14,785 posts

56 months

Sunday 13th September
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Two sockets would not be enough for my desk.

I would just plug in a 4-way and mount it on the side of the desk or similar.

OTOH, spurring in a socket is not difficult, plasterboard is easy to repair assuming you don't mind repainting the wall.
That way you can have a double socket with USB outlets.

KAgantua

5,190 posts

161 months

Sunday 13th September
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Pit Pony said:
For some reason we didn't have any sockets on the wall where the head of our bed sits, do no way yo plugging phones on bedside lights.

But on other side of the wall was a double socket.

Next door is an electrician so I got him to fit a spur.

Could have done it myself but CBA.

Good job because he had to offset it as the wall is too thin to put sockets back to back.

Basically the cable for the spur crosses through the wall at an angle.
Should not be

The Three D Mucketeer

7,493 posts

257 months

Sunday 13th September
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Thinking outside the box.. Buy a 4 TAPO SMART 4 way lead... fasten it to the back of the desk, plug everything thing in and turn it on and off by the TAPO APP or ALEXA 9or similar) smile

JoshSm

5,281 posts

67 months

Sunday 13th September
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I wouldn't add a new socket because it's effort and if you move the desk you end up with a weird orphan floating outlet. I'd use a desk mount extention strip instead.


If you really really insist then you might need to pull things apart a bit to expose/fit cables depending on how tight the capping is. Assuming it's a ring then you want one cable to still go direct to the lower socket, and then split the other so the new socket is connected to it. I doubt there's actually enough slack so the best option for a short section like this is to pull the existing cable back to the new socket, cut it to the right length, and add a new section between the two sockets to replace the bit you removed.

If you want it properly vertically inline you'd likely have to pull both cables back so the continuous one can run down through inside the backbox too.


But honestly don't bother, get a proper mounted extension.

JoshSm

5,281 posts

67 months

Sunday 13th September
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KAgantua said:
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I once had a good long argument with a contract electrician about all the diagonal runs they'd put in at first fix. The regs weren't enough, I had to go though all the pictures in the NICEIC** guide before they'd accept it was wrong and rerun it.

One of the simplest aspects of the whole business is routing & protection and lazy stupid people still fk it up.


**Used that one as they were NICEIC registered!

Gin and Ultrasonic

347 posts

69 months

Monday 14th September
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JoshSm said:
I wouldn't add a new socket because it's effort and if you move the desk you end up with a weird orphan floating outlet. I'd use a desk mount extention strip instead.


If you really really insist then you might need to pull things apart a bit to expose/fit cables depending on how tight the capping is. Assuming it's a ring then you want one cable to still go direct to the lower socket, and then split the other so the new socket is connected to it. I doubt there's actually enough slack so the best option for a short section like this is to pull the existing cable back to the new socket, cut it to the right length, and add a new section between the two sockets to replace the bit you removed.

If you want it properly vertically inline you'd likely have to pull both cables back so the continuous one can run down through inside the backbox too.


But honestly don't bother, get a proper mounted extension.
Absolutely this - you will end up with a load of work to get a double socket in a new (and strange) place when chances are you'll need to plug an extension into it anyway.

I'd recommend using command strips to fix an extension cable to the wall above your desk - then if you don't like where it is you can just rip it off the wall without having to fill any holes, and put it somewhere else. I've mounted an individually switched 6 gang socket with 4 USB charging ports on my wall and it easily covers everything on my desk and anything that can be charged by USB, and is a totally solid fixing.

Dave Hedgehog

16,366 posts

234 months

Monday 14th September
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David_M said:
Why not just get a desktop extension?

Like this, for example, but they come in all shapes and sizes:

https://www.kenable.co.uk/networking/power-distrib...
i have a pair of 8 socket units that are wall mounted wall mounted

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Extension-Outlets-P...

Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Monday 14th September 12:45

Pit Pony

11,416 posts

151 months

Tuesday 15th September
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KAgantua said:
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Oh dear. Best remember not to drill the wall near it then.

Do you think we might die ?


v8notbrave

886 posts

43 months

Tuesday 15th September
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Sparkies have a great set of Flexi rods, you can extend the wiring from existing and taping wiring to rods can push up to exit where your new socket above is, as you have a nice cavity

You can do it or find nice sparky as it's an hour's work at most for someone good or a whole morning for us DIYers!

(I'm no sparky and would caution if you were to run very high amp items due to load but for a desk it's no different to folk running plug in extension leads, imho)

Mr Pointy

13,414 posts

189 months

Tuesday 15th September
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KAgantua said:
Pit Pony said:
For some reason we didn't have any sockets on the wall where the head of our bed sits, do no way yo plugging phones on bedside lights.

But on other side of the wall was a double socket.

Next door is an electrician so I got him to fit a spur.

Could have done it myself but CBA.

Good job because he had to offset it as the wall is too thin to put sockets back to back.

Basically the cable for the spur crosses through the wall at an angle.
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Where is it defined that cables must only pass through a wall perpendicular to the face of the wall? In elevation the wiring zones are defined as horizontal & vertical paths from a socket or switch, but where is the definition of the route from one side of the wall to the other?

The sockets could both be at the same height but offset laterally & joined by a cable route drilled through the wall, but which would still be within the prescribed zone when viewed in elevation.

POIDH

3,840 posts

95 months

Tuesday 15th September
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Many extension cables have screw 'slots' on the back. You could just mount a 4-gang extension to the wall in front of the desk.

https://jeostorm.com/uk/how-to-wall-mount-an-wall-...