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Whats the difference between being depressed, and depression (if that makes sense).
Just lately a lot of things have been happening with work and my personal life, and its difficult to sometimes get things into perspective. Its hard to sleep with such worries. I've tried talking to friends, but sometimes that can be difficult when their lives are going so well.
I'm trying very hard lately to simplify my life, to remove any doubts and worries.
Both my sisters have suffered from depression and been medicated for it.
Just lately a lot of things have been happening with work and my personal life, and its difficult to sometimes get things into perspective. Its hard to sleep with such worries. I've tried talking to friends, but sometimes that can be difficult when their lives are going so well.
I'm trying very hard lately to simplify my life, to remove any doubts and worries.
Both my sisters have suffered from depression and been medicated for it.
To be honest POD, I'm not qualified to give you the answer, only a quick note on my personal perspective of difficult times.
I totally understand your perspective on good time friends and what they might think of others' difficult times, but I reckon they'd have more time to help / listen than you might originally appreciate.
I'm struggling to be more eloquent, but a friend in my circle of folks (who are generally upbeat at the mo), had had some very awful circumstances recently, and was surprised by the support received.
There is a terribly fine line between one day and the next mate...don't know what else to say really...
I totally understand your perspective on good time friends and what they might think of others' difficult times, but I reckon they'd have more time to help / listen than you might originally appreciate.
I'm struggling to be more eloquent, but a friend in my circle of folks (who are generally upbeat at the mo), had had some very awful circumstances recently, and was surprised by the support received.
There is a terribly fine line between one day and the next mate...don't know what else to say really...
Depression is huge problem, not often acknowdged due to people esp men seeing it as a weakness or some sort of "mental" problem. I've sent POD some details, sometimes it's easier to have a "chat" than talk via the forum. I'm more than happy to talk to anyone, mainly it will involve me sending them to their own doctor who can provide the best treatment.
I was widowed 2 1/2 years ago, I'm 35 now. My wife had a fault with her genes, it wasn't totally unexpected but the house passing to her ex- was...
I can't tell you the difference between 'being depressed' and 'depression', but one thing that helped me get an idea of perspective is this:
Q: How do you eat an elephant?
A: Mouthful by mouthful.
I have good days and bad days. Main thing, for me, is realising when it's the latter and stepping back a little (or a lot).
Hope this helps.
Rich.
PS you will be overwhelmed by the support 'true' friends will give you. I still am
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I can't tell you the difference between 'being depressed' and 'depression', but one thing that helped me get an idea of perspective is this:
Q: How do you eat an elephant?
A: Mouthful by mouthful.
I have good days and bad days. Main thing, for me, is realising when it's the latter and stepping back a little (or a lot).
Hope this helps.
Rich.
PS you will be overwhelmed by the support 'true' friends will give you. I still am
.It's better to talk and get some feedback than to hold it all in. It's the hardest thing to figure out who you can talk to, who will understand without being overwhelmed by your talking to them, etc.
I know that some people think talking about stuff on this forum is like shouting your problems on a billboard, but on the otherhand, I for example, and others, are strangers to you, and you to us, so we are not so judgmental of each other because of that. I think that's why people post their problems on here. Nonetheless, though you wouldn't want to bare your soul, if you could speak about circumstances generally you'll find that many people have been through similar things, and many people on here can offer sound advice (as well as smart remarks...though these are generally towards trying to cheer people up).
It's depression if it lasts for a very long time, you become fatigued, and have difficulty just getting regular tasks done. Sometimes it goes away on it's own. It doesn't mean that you will need medicine, or that you will even need medicine all your life if you need a little help now. Go ahead and vent if you need to vent. Not to pry, but if you get feedback, it can be a start to sorting out what's troubling you. There are both physical and psychological things going on, they are both intertwined.
I go through depressive spells myself, and have to work really hard at getting out of them, but you can do it. It's tough, but don't be hard on yourself. Do some stuff you enjoy in addition to what needs to get done. You will get through it. Sometimes getting another perspective can make all the difference to finding the solution.
I know that some people think talking about stuff on this forum is like shouting your problems on a billboard, but on the otherhand, I for example, and others, are strangers to you, and you to us, so we are not so judgmental of each other because of that. I think that's why people post their problems on here. Nonetheless, though you wouldn't want to bare your soul, if you could speak about circumstances generally you'll find that many people have been through similar things, and many people on here can offer sound advice (as well as smart remarks...though these are generally towards trying to cheer people up).
It's depression if it lasts for a very long time, you become fatigued, and have difficulty just getting regular tasks done. Sometimes it goes away on it's own. It doesn't mean that you will need medicine, or that you will even need medicine all your life if you need a little help now. Go ahead and vent if you need to vent. Not to pry, but if you get feedback, it can be a start to sorting out what's troubling you. There are both physical and psychological things going on, they are both intertwined.
I go through depressive spells myself, and have to work really hard at getting out of them, but you can do it. It's tough, but don't be hard on yourself. Do some stuff you enjoy in addition to what needs to get done. You will get through it. Sometimes getting another perspective can make all the difference to finding the solution.
I had a hideous run in with depression, I used to be a real extrovert life and soul of the party, used to have such a "
it" attitude and was really on top of the world. Had a shit run of things and found myself unable to cope. It almost felt like being part of a massive avalance, no amount of shovelling would prevent the downslope movement. It was like being a V16 engine in a world of Briggs and Strattons, apart from the ignition was ed. Depression is a dreadful condition where you are unable to get it together, whereas being depressed is merely feeling shitty for a bit. I found myself feeling like life was just a living death and everything was hopeless and pointless. It's quite difficult to describe but is pretty much the worst thing that can happen to a person. I was chatting to a young bloke dying of cancer when I was depressed and he was much happier than me, that was a point where I felt truly shitty.
Anyway, time passed and in the end it all paid off, I finally found success and love and began to finally see beauty in things (that sounds like some lentilist tt comment but its novel when you can first appreciate your life). I reckon it's been a good thing in hindsight as I am more patient, empathetic and have time for people instead of just saying "They need to get a grip" or "It's a dog eat dog world". It was a struggle but I'm as good as I was before, in fact probably better as a person, I've got it all now. If you haven't been depressed, you probably lack the mental strength when life does throw more shit at you than you can cope with. I suppose I am pretty fireproof now. I never thought it would happen to me, after all, mental illness is for weak minded freaks, right?........
If anyone needs an ear about depression, I'm a good one.
it" attitude and was really on top of the world. Had a shit run of things and found myself unable to cope. It almost felt like being part of a massive avalance, no amount of shovelling would prevent the downslope movement. It was like being a V16 engine in a world of Briggs and Strattons, apart from the ignition was ed. Depression is a dreadful condition where you are unable to get it together, whereas being depressed is merely feeling shitty for a bit. I found myself feeling like life was just a living death and everything was hopeless and pointless. It's quite difficult to describe but is pretty much the worst thing that can happen to a person. I was chatting to a young bloke dying of cancer when I was depressed and he was much happier than me, that was a point where I felt truly shitty. Anyway, time passed and in the end it all paid off, I finally found success and love and began to finally see beauty in things (that sounds like some lentilist t
t comment but its novel when you can first appreciate your life). I reckon it's been a good thing in hindsight as I am more patient, empathetic and have time for people instead of just saying "They need to get a grip" or "It's a dog eat dog world". It was a struggle but I'm as good as I was before, in fact probably better as a person, I've got it all now. If you haven't been depressed, you probably lack the mental strength when life does throw more shit at you than you can cope with. I suppose I am pretty fireproof now. I never thought it would happen to me, after all, mental illness is for weak minded freaks, right?........ If anyone needs an ear about depression, I'm a good one.
Absolutely right, Love Machine. It's really like falling into an unending darkness. I went through a real, lasting hopelessness that I thought I would never get out of. Eventually I had times of fuctionality, and had occasional times where I was almost normal and not on the verge of a nervous breakdown constantly. Now I know when I'm starting to have trouble and can take steps to try to head it off, but it was a long time learning.
Hang in there PoD. It's worth it, no matter how bad things seem now, you do have friends, and you will be happy and successful, even if you don't feel like you are now.
Hang in there PoD. It's worth it, no matter how bad things seem now, you do have friends, and you will be happy and successful, even if you don't feel like you are now.
Firstly it is very important to realise that no matter how bad it may seem, depression usually always passes, it may take weeks, even years, but you WILL come through it...
Also, most people feel worse in the morning, try to go to bed earlier, with a hot milky drink like Horlicks, so at least if you do wake up early you have had some decent sleep.
Talk to as many people as possible about your feelings but whatever you do don't bottle them up....
Try to avoid anti-depressants (if at all possible), but establish the root of the problem and attempt to deal with it if you can.....
Get plenty of excercise, and avoid too much alcohol....
Good luck...
Also, most people feel worse in the morning, try to go to bed earlier, with a hot milky drink like Horlicks, so at least if you do wake up early you have had some decent sleep.
Talk to as many people as possible about your feelings but whatever you do don't bottle them up....
Try to avoid anti-depressants (if at all possible), but establish the root of the problem and attempt to deal with it if you can.....
Get plenty of excercise, and avoid too much alcohol....
Good luck...
Wakey Racer has offered the best advice so far.
There is no difference between depression and depressed, only the adjective.
Reseach continues to correlate that prescription drugs, counselling or other interventions are inconclusive cures for depression.
They are all props or crutches whilst one proceeds through their individual 'journey' of a depressive cycle.
The length of that journey can be dependant of the factors that inhibit recovery/the components that charge the depression
>> Edited by hustlebabe on Sunday 16th October 00:55
There is no difference between depression and depressed, only the adjective.
Reseach continues to correlate that prescription drugs, counselling or other interventions are inconclusive cures for depression.
They are all props or crutches whilst one proceeds through their individual 'journey' of a depressive cycle.
The length of that journey can be dependant of the factors that inhibit recovery/the components that charge the depression
>> Edited by hustlebabe on Sunday 16th October 00:55
To be serious here for a moment and that is difficult for me..
Do not expect or look for support for this sort of thing on PH. The replies you get will often be flippant joke remarks to your situation and to be honest the webs an awful place for this sort of advice, especially on a car forum.
Make an appt to see your doc and if you can afford it et a private referral to a head doctor to talk things through with. If its just a matter of getting things off your chest call a mate or the samaritans.
Dpression is a real pain in the arse. Modern life can be a real challenge and sometimes you can drop the ball. It doesnt mean your mad, just low for a while.
Then stop posting about a bad situation on here, because everytime you read it it will reinforce the situation you have found yourself in.
Do not expect or look for support for this sort of thing on PH. The replies you get will often be flippant joke remarks to your situation and to be honest the webs an awful place for this sort of advice, especially on a car forum.
Make an appt to see your doc and if you can afford it et a private referral to a head doctor to talk things through with. If its just a matter of getting things off your chest call a mate or the samaritans.
Dpression is a real pain in the arse. Modern life can be a real challenge and sometimes you can drop the ball. It doesnt mean your mad, just low for a while.
Then stop posting about a bad situation on here, because everytime you read it it will reinforce the situation you have found yourself in.
parrot of doom said:Do a forum search in General Gassing and Pie and Piston.
Whats the difference between being depressed, and depression?
Depression has been covered a few times and there are some pretty comprehensive threads on the subject.
Your starting point should be your GP.
Good Luck.
Pat
parrot of doom said:
Whats the difference between being depressed, and depression (if that makes sense).
Just lately a lot of things have been happening with work and my personal life, and its difficult to sometimes get things into perspective. Its hard to sleep with such worries. I've tried talking to friends, but sometimes that can be difficult when their lives are going so well.
I'm trying very hard lately to simplify my life, to remove any doubts and worries.
Both my sisters have suffered from depression and been medicated for it.
Its good that you are recognising the symptoms,i grew up with depression from a close family member from my early ages(around 7-8 maybe younger)and the important thing i remember is because its in the family it doesnt always mean that we are going to suffer with it.
I think the way we percieve ourselves and others can greatly vary from the way others percieve us and somtimes we become irrational without realising it which in turn makes us sensitive and gets us into a declining circle.
Its good to remember that although you might be on a downer,looking and seeing others smiling and enjoying life may not tell the true tale ,its just that they maybe coping better than you.
Talking to *Good* friends and seeing your GP is probably the best steps to take at the moment.
Good Luck
Cliffy
rich1231 said:What he said.
Lots of good sensible stuff
A friend of mine threw himself in front of a train at Long Eaton station about 25 years ago. I knew he was ill, went to see him in hospital a few times, friends rallied around giving support, but we didnt realise just how ill he was until his death.
satch said:
It's kinda like, you want people to understand where you are but you don't want to burden them with your woes. Putting yourself onto people when you know that it will be a painful experience recalling how you feel and stuff, is the last thing you want to do.
That is exactly how I feel. Right now, I have a nice house, nice area, nice car, good job (although I'm disillusioned with it right now), and nice friends. I'm sick of going home to an empty house though (apart from 2 cats). Joined a dating agency on the internet, might as well since nothing else is working in that department!
here's my 2 penn'orth...
One is feeling down due to isolated events, the other is when the world is caving in on you..
I sufferd from depression a few years ago...when it was at its worst, I would go all day staring at the walls, then goto bed asking that the god I thought I believed in took my life while I slept, cos I couldn't face another day.
The worst day was when I was stood over the sink, knife in hand, going to slit my wrists, and my dog - don't laugh - walked into the kitchen and looked at me - I just couldn't do it!!
Counselling didn;t work for me, neither did drugs long term. It's true what folks say...in time, things DO improve, but see your GP if you feel you need to...
One is feeling down due to isolated events, the other is when the world is caving in on you..
I sufferd from depression a few years ago...when it was at its worst, I would go all day staring at the walls, then goto bed asking that the god I thought I believed in took my life while I slept, cos I couldn't face another day.
The worst day was when I was stood over the sink, knife in hand, going to slit my wrists, and my dog - don't laugh - walked into the kitchen and looked at me - I just couldn't do it!!
Counselling didn;t work for me, neither did drugs long term. It's true what folks say...in time, things DO improve, but see your GP if you feel you need to...
Parrot of doom said:
That is exactly how I feel. Right now, I have a nice house, nice area, nice car, good job (although I'm disillusioned with it right now), and nice friends. I'm sick of going home to an empty house though (apart from 2 cats). Joined a dating agency on the internet, might as well since nothing else is working in that department!
Ditto. Except i have 2 goldfish instead.
I probably also have less material posessions, but the thing is i'm never happy where ever i am.
I want to be alone, yet i want to be with someone. No shortage of female friends, but none i would want to settle down with.
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