Bike security
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cirian75

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5,722 posts

262 months

Wednesday 26th August
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Fingers crossed bike test passed before March next year.

Looking at the SV650, but there is no where to pass the a heavy duty chain through the frame.

So thinking x3 ground anchors.

chains through the wheels front a rear to anchors 1 and 3, and long wheel to wheel, as tight as I dare and attached via another chain ground anchor 2

All done with as much slack as possible removed.

P675

871 posts

61 months

Wednesday 26th August
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I have 2 Taurus Bullring ground anchors, 1 by each wheel, chained. They are concreted into the ground and I doubt will ever go anywhere, the ring is 22mm. Chains should be 19mm or 22mm.

bogie

17,062 posts

301 months

Wednesday 26th August
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Have a look at pragmasis anti pinch pins, see if they would work with your frame/chain.

I used one on one of my bikes that had a single sided swingarm.

https://securityforbikes.com/collections/anti-pinc...

Redline88

646 posts

135 months

Wednesday 26th August
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What about two ground anchors with a d lock attaching them - hiplock do one now which reaches up to meet the lock and is rated highly for angle grinder attacks.

For something like an SV650 it’s going to be stolen to rag around or for parts as opposed to something more exotic. I’d say the above would provide enough of a deterrent to keep the normal balaclava’s types away whilst also not being overly onerous each time you park it up

Remal

25,102 posts

263 months

Wednesday 26th August
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You don't mention where you can park your motorcycle. A shed or garage would be idea. Less visible the better.
You can also use something like a Litelok through said chain and onto something such as suspension etc. a little flexible and easy to secure to the bike without reducing the security

cirian75

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5,722 posts

262 months

Wednesday 26th August
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Remal said:
You don't mention where you can park your motorcycle. A shed or garage would be idea. Less visible the better.
You can also use something like a Litelok through said chain and onto something such as suspension etc. a little flexible and easy to secure to the bike without reducing the security
Rear yard, well out of site, will be sitting on hard concert, landlord will allow ground anchors, but not a shed.

Tonberry

2,294 posts

221 months

Wednesday 26th August
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If you're going to use chains as the primary means of security, they need to be 19mm at a minimum as they can be cut with an angle grinder in less than a minute.

cirian75

Original Poster:

5,722 posts

262 months

Wednesday 26th August
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Tonberry said:
If you're going to use chains as the primary means of security, they need to be 19mm at a minimum as they can be cut with an angle grinder in less than a minute.
Been googling, it looks like grinder proof ground anchors combined with grinder proof D locks is the new meta.

Tonberry

2,294 posts

221 months

Wednesday 26th August
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Agreed, but they're angle grinder resistant locks rather than proof. They can be cut but it will take multiple discs, batteries and a lot of time.

One angle grinder resistant D lock on each wheel with one of them going through a ground anchor. Have a look at the products Litelok and Hiplok sell.

Ambleton

7,253 posts

221 months

Wednesday 26th August
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If you're on about multiple ground anchors, chains and D-locks you'll soon get fed up and leave them off one night, at which point It'll go missing. Just because its a pain in the sack to carry around an arsenal of Keys, locks and chains etc.

The best form of security is one thats easy to use. If you have a nice big pad available with a dedicated area you'd be better off with just one device thats utterly bomb proof.

If I was in your boots i'd be looking at an anchor/stand like the Tufluck.

It IS expensive, but 3 chains, 2 D locks and 2 anchors will all add up. I also believe that it can be moved at a later date as the bolts can be accessible later.

If every time you want to use your bike you have to spend 20mins locking and unlocking it then it just becomes a real chore.

https://soldsecure.com/product/tufluck-motorcycle-...

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/prod...

Edited by Ambleton on Wednesday 26th August 21:51

cirian75

Original Poster:

5,722 posts

262 months

Wednesday 26th August
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Ambleton said:
If you're on about multiple ground anchors, chains and D-locks you'll soon get fed up and leave them off one night, at which point It'll go missing. Just because its a pain in the sack to carry around an arsenal of Keys, locks and chains etc.

The best form of security is one thats easy to use. If you have a nice big pad available with a dedicated area you'd be better off with just one device thats utterly bomb proof.

If I was in your boots i'd be looking at an anchor/stand like the Tufluck.

It IS expensive, but 3 chains, 2 D locks and 2 anchors will all add up. I also believe that it can be moved at a later date as the bolts can be accessible later.

If every time you want to use your bike you have to spend 20mins locking and unlocking it then it just becomes a real chore.

https://soldsecure.com/product/tufluck-motorcycle-...

https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/prod...

Edited by Ambleton on Wednesday 26th August 21:51
Now that looks more like it smile

Ambleton

7,253 posts

221 months

Wednesday 26th August
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I guess the only real disadvantage to this is that its a single place solution.

If you have half a dozen locks and chains, SOME of them may be portable for use when out and about.

But tbh, the least hassle the better in my opinion and a single "in place" security device with minimal effort will never really be a chore to use. Even a single heavy chain, in the rain, kneeling down, lifting off the wet floor, threading your D lock through, threading through the frame or wheel to lock it seems like a lot of effort when you're soaked through, its cold, dark and miserable and your tired.

Thats when you think "ah fk it, itll be alright for one night".

hiccy18

4,123 posts

96 months

Thursday 27th August
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That TufLuck and a cover would be ample for an SV650 surely? Wish there was a version for rear wheels.

CHLEMCBC

1,698 posts

46 months

Thursday 27th August
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I'd be tempted to move to a better postcode...

Tardigrade

147 posts

89 months

Thursday 27th August
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Ambleton said:
If I was in your boots i'd be looking at an anchor/stand like the Tufluck.

It IS expensive, but 3 chains, 2 D locks and 2 anchors will all add up. I also believe that it can be moved at a later date as the bolts can be accessible later.

If every time you want to use your bike you have to spend 20mins locking and unlocking it then it just becomes a real chore.
Yeah, this makes sense. I'm a big fan of grinder-resistant D Locks, but one Tufluck will easily match OP's desired security level and be so much easier to use.

cirian75

Original Poster:

5,722 posts

262 months

Thursday 27th August
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Plan now

Front wheel = TufLuck

Rear wheel = Hiplok D1000 D-lock + Hiplok A1000 ground anchor

Plus a high quality cover.

Ambleton

7,253 posts

221 months

Thursday 27th August
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cirian75 said:
Plan now

Front wheel = TufLuck

Rear wheel = Hiplok D1000 D-lock + Hiplok A1000 ground anchor

Plus a high quality cover.
I wouldnt bother with the second ground anchor. I would've thought a tufluck on its own would be just plenty. If you're really concerned, put a motion sensitive alarm on it somewhere as well.

I think anyone, when faced with that would admit that theres almost certainly easier pickings about.

My biggest fear at that point would be the "if I cant have it, you cant either" scrote, who would damage or destroy the bike just because they cant nick it.

s p a c e m a n

12,049 posts

177 months

Thursday 27th August
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I'm a broken record, but I wouldn't be without a monimoto tracker now. As soon as someone fks around with the bike it will call you, if someone gets away with the bike then you can go get it.

If you're out and about on your bike you can't always guarantee that it's not going to be the most attractive thing in the area but just having something on there to slow them from taking it and knowing that the bike will call me if it's knocked about is enough for me to not be paranoid

If I was leaving my bike outside at home I'd have a ground anchor for the front wheel and a hiplock for the back that I could take out with me and a tracker.

Wacky Racer

41,264 posts

276 months

Thursday 27th August
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Litelok x3