Epic road trip completed, so why do I want to sell the X%?
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I’ve just returned from a 2 ½ week, almost 3,000 mile European road trip with the family. We drove from the North West to Lido de Venezia and back, spending some time in the Italian Lakes on the way and taking in the Simplon Pass and the Gotthard Pass on the way there and back.
It was our first big trip in the X5 45e since buying it in January and it was perfect for the journey, comfortable, spacious, quick enough when needed and made long days on the road easy with Driving Assistant Professional.
What surprised me though was that as I came towards the end of the trip and even more since I have returned, I have started to question the value of having a car like the X5 for daily family duties. It was perfect for that trip, but for 90% of the time it feels like overkill.
I know this is no surprise, it’s an SUV that lives mainly in suburbia. But it got me thinking about alternatives if I was to make a change, and the obvious answers are probably either a G31 540i touring or a G32 640i GT. Whilst in short supply, both seem to be available for around £20k, which would significantly reduce the monthly running costs (even when you factor in additional fuel costs).
What else should I consider as I think about whether to make this surprising and sudden change to a car I really enjoy but don’t really make full use of?
Max budget of £20k to make the savings worthwhile, enjoyable to drive and can be used for occasional long family trips – albeit not often as long as the one we’ve just returned from.
It was our first big trip in the X5 45e since buying it in January and it was perfect for the journey, comfortable, spacious, quick enough when needed and made long days on the road easy with Driving Assistant Professional.
What surprised me though was that as I came towards the end of the trip and even more since I have returned, I have started to question the value of having a car like the X5 for daily family duties. It was perfect for that trip, but for 90% of the time it feels like overkill.
I know this is no surprise, it’s an SUV that lives mainly in suburbia. But it got me thinking about alternatives if I was to make a change, and the obvious answers are probably either a G31 540i touring or a G32 640i GT. Whilst in short supply, both seem to be available for around £20k, which would significantly reduce the monthly running costs (even when you factor in additional fuel costs).
What else should I consider as I think about whether to make this surprising and sudden change to a car I really enjoy but don’t really make full use of?
Max budget of £20k to make the savings worthwhile, enjoyable to drive and can be used for occasional long family trips – albeit not often as long as the one we’ve just returned from.
aussieal said:
I ve just returned from a 2 ½ week, almost 3,000 mile European road trip with the family. We drove from the North West to Lido de Venezia and back, spending some time in the Italian Lakes on the way and taking in the Simplon Pass and the Gotthard Pass on the way there and back.
It was our first big trip in the X5 45e since buying it in January and it was perfect for the journey, comfortable, spacious, quick enough when needed and made long days on the road easy with Driving Assistant Professional.
What surprised me though was that as I came towards the end of the trip and even more since I have returned, I have started to question the value of having a car like the X5 for daily family duties. It was perfect for that trip, but for 90% of the time it feels like overkill.
I know this is no surprise, it s an SUV that lives mainly in suburbia. But it got me thinking about alternatives if I was to make a change, and the obvious answers are probably either a G31 540i touring or a G32 640i GT. Whilst in short supply, both seem to be available for around £20k, which would significantly reduce the monthly running costs (even when you factor in additional fuel costs).
What else should I consider as I think about whether to make this surprising and sudden change to a car I really enjoy but don t really make full use of?
Max budget of £20k to make the savings worthwhile, enjoyable to drive and can be used for occasional long family trips albeit not often as long as the one we ve just returned from.
45e here too, I float around locally on electric and switch to petrol on the rare long trips. It was our first big trip in the X5 45e since buying it in January and it was perfect for the journey, comfortable, spacious, quick enough when needed and made long days on the road easy with Driving Assistant Professional.
What surprised me though was that as I came towards the end of the trip and even more since I have returned, I have started to question the value of having a car like the X5 for daily family duties. It was perfect for that trip, but for 90% of the time it feels like overkill.
I know this is no surprise, it s an SUV that lives mainly in suburbia. But it got me thinking about alternatives if I was to make a change, and the obvious answers are probably either a G31 540i touring or a G32 640i GT. Whilst in short supply, both seem to be available for around £20k, which would significantly reduce the monthly running costs (even when you factor in additional fuel costs).
What else should I consider as I think about whether to make this surprising and sudden change to a car I really enjoy but don t really make full use of?
Max budget of £20k to make the savings worthwhile, enjoyable to drive and can be used for occasional long family trips albeit not often as long as the one we ve just returned from.
It’s now August and I’m still on half a tank of Spanish petrol left from early June.
It’s a good ltd co BIK company car compromise but if it was a private purchase I’d definitely have gone for something else.
Finding a BMW estate with the same level of kit - Tech Plus, Comfort Plus etc - is virtually impossible - I tried and failed.
Previous car was a Kia Stinger - around your 20k budget, fairly good fun - rear wheel drive and a twin turbo V6, decent boot for a five door hatchey thing, and all the kit - cooled seats, pan roof, full lane keep etc - as standard, plus the remainder of a seven year warranty if you can find one that’s been serviced on schedule every six months (which is one of the few downsides).
Surely the perfect example of switching to a Model Y.
Better performance, better handling, just as practical but significantly cheaper to run.
Then 1 year later you realise you prefer the Tesla and realise it’s realistically the best daily driver in the world and you question every preconceived idea about cars you have.
Better performance, better handling, just as practical but significantly cheaper to run.
Then 1 year later you realise you prefer the Tesla and realise it’s realistically the best daily driver in the world and you question every preconceived idea about cars you have.
CG2020UK said:
Surely the perfect example of switching to a Model Y.
Better performance, better handling, just as practical but significantly cheaper to run.
Then 1 year later you realise you prefer the Tesla and realise it s realistically the best daily driver in the world and you question every preconceived idea about cars you have.
I only ever hear good things about the Y, but I just don't think I could ever bring myself to have a Tesla. The facelift ones do look good though.Better performance, better handling, just as practical but significantly cheaper to run.
Then 1 year later you realise you prefer the Tesla and realise it s realistically the best daily driver in the world and you question every preconceived idea about cars you have.
andy43 said:
45e here too, I float around locally on electric and switch to petrol on the rare long trips.
It s now August and I m still on half a tank of Spanish petrol left from early June.
It s a good ltd co BIK company car compromise but if it was a private purchase I d definitely have gone for something else.
Finding a BMW estate with the same level of kit - Tech Plus, Comfort Plus etc - is virtually impossible - I tried and failed.
Previous car was a Kia Stinger - around your 20k budget, fairly good fun - rear wheel drive and a twin turbo V6, decent boot for a five door hatchey thing, and all the kit - cooled seats, pan roof, full lane keep etc - as standard, plus the remainder of a seven year warranty if you can find one that s been serviced on schedule every six months (which is one of the few downsides).
Funnily enough there was a lovely Stinger near to where we stayed in Italy and both me and the kids passed comment on it almost every day!It s now August and I m still on half a tank of Spanish petrol left from early June.
It s a good ltd co BIK company car compromise but if it was a private purchase I d definitely have gone for something else.
Finding a BMW estate with the same level of kit - Tech Plus, Comfort Plus etc - is virtually impossible - I tried and failed.
Previous car was a Kia Stinger - around your 20k budget, fairly good fun - rear wheel drive and a twin turbo V6, decent boot for a five door hatchey thing, and all the kit - cooled seats, pan roof, full lane keep etc - as standard, plus the remainder of a seven year warranty if you can find one that s been serviced on schedule every six months (which is one of the few downsides).
Don't you like the higher driving position and better visibility now you've got used to it ?
OTOH, maybe it's a good time to cash out of the X5. I do wonder what will happen to used prices of current gen X5 over the next few years. They seem remarkably strong at the moment. Surely that can't last forever, they're not going to be particularly reliable, esp the complex hybrids, and there are so many fast competent refined alternatives coming through especially in the pure EV sector. (I'm not trying to put them down, these were just my own thoughts before deciding to lease an iX rather than buy a nearly new X5).
OTOH, maybe it's a good time to cash out of the X5. I do wonder what will happen to used prices of current gen X5 over the next few years. They seem remarkably strong at the moment. Surely that can't last forever, they're not going to be particularly reliable, esp the complex hybrids, and there are so many fast competent refined alternatives coming through especially in the pure EV sector. (I'm not trying to put them down, these were just my own thoughts before deciding to lease an iX rather than buy a nearly new X5).
aussieal said:
I only ever hear good things about the Y, but I just don't think I could ever bring myself to have a Tesla. The facelift ones do look good though.
Come to the dark side 
I went M2 to Model 3.
Then G21 330e to X3 to Model Y.
Frustratingly amazing daily drivers. iPhone of cars.
aussieal said:
CG2020UK said:
Surely the perfect example of switching to a Model Y.
Better performance, better handling, just as practical but significantly cheaper to run.
Then 1 year later you realise you prefer the Tesla and realise it s realistically the best daily driver in the world and you question every preconceived idea about cars you have.
I only ever hear good things about the Y, but I just don't think I could ever bring myself to have a Tesla. The facelift ones do look good though.Better performance, better handling, just as practical but significantly cheaper to run.
Then 1 year later you realise you prefer the Tesla and realise it s realistically the best daily driver in the world and you question every preconceived idea about cars you have.
I guess it depends on how far ahead you are looking ahead when assessing a car.
If you thought the current car would be suitable for 10 years of motoring with all needs considered, then some peaks and troughs in whether you maximise value are acceptable. Not many of us do 3,000 miles of driving around Europe regularly - it will mostly be the mundane trips that a car is used for.
If you are not sure what your needs are, or don't think you want to spend as much, nor need to have that 10 years of flexibility... then it makes sense to downsize.
Bear in mind there's always a cost to changing cars somewhere in the equation. E.g. if you buy that £20k car, then really it's a £16k car assuming it's bought from a retailer. My suspicion is that you'd change the car again sooner if you buy a cheaper, older car.
If you thought the current car would be suitable for 10 years of motoring with all needs considered, then some peaks and troughs in whether you maximise value are acceptable. Not many of us do 3,000 miles of driving around Europe regularly - it will mostly be the mundane trips that a car is used for.
If you are not sure what your needs are, or don't think you want to spend as much, nor need to have that 10 years of flexibility... then it makes sense to downsize.
Bear in mind there's always a cost to changing cars somewhere in the equation. E.g. if you buy that £20k car, then really it's a £16k car assuming it's bought from a retailer. My suspicion is that you'd change the car again sooner if you buy a cheaper, older car.
I went from Model S P100D (pre-Plaid the fastest Tesla built) to a Kia Stinger and bloody loved it.
Now I’m X5 45e via company purchase and for a garden shed sized 2.5 tonne lump on air suspension it does a good job.
There’s only one of the three there with any emotion or proper excitement though - it’s the one that only has a 12 volt battery.
Now I’m X5 45e via company purchase and for a garden shed sized 2.5 tonne lump on air suspension it does a good job.
There’s only one of the three there with any emotion or proper excitement though - it’s the one that only has a 12 volt battery.
The problem with the X5(for me), is that they're so boring to drive in my view. Too heavy, too big, and just not much fun either.
I love our 2024 X5 40d don't get me wrong in terms of comfort/air suspension and practicality with the 7 seats etc for sure, but you'll never jump out of bed just for a drive of it in my opinion ever to be honest.
Spend your money on something far more engaging to drive I reckon for sure.
I love our 2024 X5 40d don't get me wrong in terms of comfort/air suspension and practicality with the 7 seats etc for sure, but you'll never jump out of bed just for a drive of it in my opinion ever to be honest.
Spend your money on something far more engaging to drive I reckon for sure.
CG2020UK said:
Surely the perfect example of switching to a Model Y.
Better performance, better handling, just as practical but significantly cheaper to run.
Then 1 year later you realise you prefer the Tesla and realise it s realistically the best daily driver in the world and you question every preconceived idea about cars you have.
The Model Y looks tiny to me versus the X5 though, so you'll lose on practicality straight away I reckon. Our X5 is a 7 seater as well for example, is the Model Y offered as a 7 seater?(a genuine question). Better performance, better handling, just as practical but significantly cheaper to run.
Then 1 year later you realise you prefer the Tesla and realise it s realistically the best daily driver in the world and you question every preconceived idea about cars you have.
aussieal said:
I know this is no surprise, it s an SUV that lives mainly in suburbia. But it got me thinking about alternatives if I was to make a change, and the obvious answers are probably either a G31 540i touring or a G32 640i GT. Whilst in short supply, both seem to be available for around £20k, which would significantly reduce the monthly running costs (even when you factor in additional fuel costs).
I went from a 2004 X5 4.8iS to a 2009 E61 520d Touring years back, and don't get me wrong the engine in the 520d was absolutely terrible, but it did drive so much better than the X5 for me though. The steering in the 5 series was better, plus the lighter weight made as massive difference too I thought, so for me, I do like your 540i Touring idea for sure.
aussieal said:
What surprised me though was that as I came towards the end of the trip and even more since I have returned, I have started to question the value of having a car like the X5 for daily family duties. It was perfect for that trip, but for 90% of the time it feels like overkill.
I know this is no surprise, it s an SUV that lives mainly in suburbia. But it got me thinking about alternatives if I was to make a change, and the obvious answers are probably either a G31 540i touring or a G32 640i GT. Whilst in short supply, both seem to be available for around £20k, which would significantly reduce the monthly running costs (even when you factor in additional fuel costs).
What's the motivation to change? Is it to reduce the overall motoring costs, or is it you want a smaller/less practical car?I know this is no surprise, it s an SUV that lives mainly in suburbia. But it got me thinking about alternatives if I was to make a change, and the obvious answers are probably either a G31 540i touring or a G32 640i GT. Whilst in short supply, both seem to be available for around £20k, which would significantly reduce the monthly running costs (even when you factor in additional fuel costs).
We only use all 6 seats in our Model X 3-4 times a year when we take the extended family on a road trip somewhere. 95% of the time the car is used for school runs and shopping.
I have to say I've got use to the luxury of space and higher driving position now, when I take my wife's Lexus IS300H it feels claustrophobic and tiny.
The benefit however of a full EV is that even though the Model X isn't as efficient as a smaller EV, fuel cost is 3p/mile, up untill this year no VED, insurance is the same cost as any other car, and there is no servicing. So actually running costs are minimal however deprication is absolutely catastrophic. We are about to sell it after nearly a decade and 120k of use, it's worth about 15% of what we paid for it new. Still we got good use out it, and it enabled European road trips not possible in a car with less than 6 seats.
We are replacing it with an Ioniq 9, essentially the same size, 6 seater, exactly the same use case, but this time we are leasing through Salary Sacrifice to offset some of the deprication, the new VED on EVs and help with pensions tax bill. Cannot wait for it to arrive, the only annoyance is UK spec of the 9 don't come with foot rests in the 2nd row.....but I think the family will survive without that luxury
.I personally have zero wish to go back to a saloon or smaller car for daily driving. If we get into a situation where funds can stretch to a separate fun car, I would love to get a DC2 Teg (or similar) for weekends.
Edited by gangzoom on Thursday 20th August 06:55
cerb4.5lee said:
The Model Y looks tiny to me versus the X5 though, so you'll lose on practicality straight away I reckon. Our X5 is a 7 seater as well for example, is the Model Y offered as a 7 seater?(a genuine question).
Tesla about about to introduce a Y L in the UK. It's a 6 seater layout similar to our current X but the 3rd looks absolutely tiny. The Y is a good family car but it's a segment down interior size wise from the X. Not sure about sizing compared to the X5, our X for interior space is probably close to X7 than X5.Our X can take 6 people and 2 weeks worth of luggage, the-laws have a 3, the boot size of the 3 is laughable compared to the X. The Y L will be massively compromised for boot space with 6 people in.
I cannot wait to see how much luggage we can stuff into the Ioniq 9. Online reviews suggest 2 large check-ins and 2 medium suite case will fit just in boot with 3rd row up so similar to our current X. But the actual interior space of the 9 is bigger, one suite case can easily fit in the central gangway in 6 seater spec plus all the other flat areas. Totally different league for space compared to the Y.
For a family car, I struggle to understand why you wouldn't want space/practicality of larger SUVs. The Y L is Tesla's cheap way of not replacing the X in the larger SUV segment. You have to really want a Tesla to pick it over the other 6/7 seater EVs around now......Range Rover really do need to hurry up with their EV offer.
Edited by gangzoom on Thursday 20th August 06:52
The decision to switch from something like an X5 to a Tesla would be made so much easier if they still produced the X or S! As much as there seem to be loads of people who love their Y for practical purposes for me it's simply not big enough and the shape of the thing is horrible. Maybe it's just me, but if I could buy a new Model S I would be all over it, but I will not own a Y.
gangzoom said:
cerb4.5lee said:
The Model Y looks tiny to me versus the X5 though, so you'll lose on practicality straight away I reckon. Our X5 is a 7 seater as well for example, is the Model Y offered as a 7 seater?(a genuine question).
Tesla about about to introduce a Y L in the UK. It's a 6 seater layout similar to our current X but the 3rd looks absolutely tiny. The Y is a good family car but it's a segment down interior size wise from the X. Not sure about sizing compared to the X5, our X for interior space is probably close to X7 than X5.Our X can take 6 people and 2 weeks worth of luggage, the-laws have a 3, the boot size of the 3 is laughable compared to the X. The Y L will be massively compromised for boot space with 6 people in.
I cannot wait to see how much luggage we can stuff into the Ioniq 9. Online reviews suggest 2 large check-ins and 2 medium suite case will fit just in boot with 3rd row up so similar to our current X. But the actual interior space of the 9 is bigger, one suite case can easily fit in the central gangway in 6 seater spec plus all the other flat areas. Totally different league for space compared to the Y.
For a family car, I struggle to understand why you wouldn't want space/practicality of larger SUVs. The Y L is Tesla's cheap way of not replacing the X in the larger SUV segment. You have to really want a Tesla to pick it over the other 6/7 seater EVs around now......Range Rover really do need to hurry up with their EV offer.
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Edited by gangzoom on Thursday 20th August 06:52
aussieal said:
I ve just returned from a 2 ½ week, almost 3,000 mile European road trip with the family. We drove from the North West to Lido de Venezia and back, spending some time in the Italian Lakes on the way and taking in the Simplon Pass and the Gotthard Pass on the way there and back.
It was our first big trip in the X5 45e since buying it in January and it was perfect for the journey, comfortable, spacious, quick enough when needed and made long days on the road easy with Driving Assistant Professional.
What surprised me though was that as I came towards the end of the trip and even more since I have returned, I have started to question the value of having a car like the X5 for daily family duties. It was perfect for that trip, but for 90% of the time it feels like overkill.
I know this is no surprise, it s an SUV that lives mainly in suburbia. But it got me thinking about alternatives if I was to make a change, and the obvious answers are probably either a G31 540i touring or a G32 640i GT. Whilst in short supply, both seem to be available for around £20k, which would significantly reduce the monthly running costs (even when you factor in additional fuel costs).
What else should I consider as I think about whether to make this surprising and sudden change to a car I really enjoy but don t really make full use of?
Max budget of £20k to make the savings worthwhile, enjoyable to drive and can be used for occasional long family trips albeit not often as long as the one we ve just returned from.
Do you mind me asking how big is your family, do you need/use the space if the X5 on a regular basis?It was our first big trip in the X5 45e since buying it in January and it was perfect for the journey, comfortable, spacious, quick enough when needed and made long days on the road easy with Driving Assistant Professional.
What surprised me though was that as I came towards the end of the trip and even more since I have returned, I have started to question the value of having a car like the X5 for daily family duties. It was perfect for that trip, but for 90% of the time it feels like overkill.
I know this is no surprise, it s an SUV that lives mainly in suburbia. But it got me thinking about alternatives if I was to make a change, and the obvious answers are probably either a G31 540i touring or a G32 640i GT. Whilst in short supply, both seem to be available for around £20k, which would significantly reduce the monthly running costs (even when you factor in additional fuel costs).
What else should I consider as I think about whether to make this surprising and sudden change to a car I really enjoy but don t really make full use of?
Max budget of £20k to make the savings worthwhile, enjoyable to drive and can be used for occasional long family trips albeit not often as long as the one we ve just returned from.
Interestingly we also did a 2 and 1/2 driving trip to Europe last year in our G05 X5 and like you, the car was brilliant. It easily munched up the miles, it was so comfortable and refined.
So much so I felt the opposite to you, it made me (and the family) like the car even more when we came back!
EDIT: just seen your post again where you said 90% of the time it's an overkill. I personally would probably change it for something else as I don't think it's worth it based on a 10% use case.
Good luck!
Edited by 325iMSport on Thursday 20th August 12:34
Thank you all for your input and comments, some great questions, observations and suggestions in here.
It's a strange one, as I do really like the car and felt like the road trip was a great way to connect with it more - although I'd agree with what is said above, it's not a car you'd ever just take out for a drive, even if the mid range acceleration always brings a smile to my face.
As a family of 4 plus a dog, it's great for when we do use it and we tend to do one or two days out a month, certainly in the warmer months, whether that be in to Wales or North to the Lakes. So I definitely want and need to retain an element of practicality and spaciousness in whatever might replace it in the short or medium term.
That's why the G31 540i appeals, as well as the benefit of a return to pure petrol in the B58.
As for the financial motivation, it's not something I need to do, just something I've reflected on and surprised myself by thinking that when it comes to a family car, I'd probably prefer to spend a little less and free up some cash for other discretionary stuff like holidays and other interests. And if I can do that whilst ending up in something that is also more engaging to drive, then great.
It's a strange one, as I do really like the car and felt like the road trip was a great way to connect with it more - although I'd agree with what is said above, it's not a car you'd ever just take out for a drive, even if the mid range acceleration always brings a smile to my face.
As a family of 4 plus a dog, it's great for when we do use it and we tend to do one or two days out a month, certainly in the warmer months, whether that be in to Wales or North to the Lakes. So I definitely want and need to retain an element of practicality and spaciousness in whatever might replace it in the short or medium term.
That's why the G31 540i appeals, as well as the benefit of a return to pure petrol in the B58.
As for the financial motivation, it's not something I need to do, just something I've reflected on and surprised myself by thinking that when it comes to a family car, I'd probably prefer to spend a little less and free up some cash for other discretionary stuff like holidays and other interests. And if I can do that whilst ending up in something that is also more engaging to drive, then great.
gangzoom said:
Tesla about about to introduce a Y L in the UK. It's a 6 seater layout similar to our current X but the 3rd looks absolutely tiny. The Y is a good family car but it's a segment down interior size wise from the X. Not sure about sizing compared to the X5, our X for interior space is probably close to X7 than X5.
Our X can take 6 people and 2 weeks worth of luggage, the-laws have a 3, the boot size of the 3 is laughable compared to the X. The Y L will be massively compromised for boot space with 6 people in.
I cannot wait to see how much luggage we can stuff into the Ioniq 9. Online reviews suggest 2 large check-ins and 2 medium suite case will fit just in boot with 3rd row up so similar to our current X. But the actual interior space of the 9 is bigger, one suite case can easily fit in the central gangway in 6 seater spec plus all the other flat areas. Totally different league for space compared to the Y.
For a family car, I struggle to understand why you wouldn't want space/practicality of larger SUVs. The Y L is Tesla's cheap way of not replacing the X in the larger SUV segment. You have to really want a Tesla to pick it over the other 6/7 seater EVs around now......Range Rover really do need to hurry up with their EV offer.
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The YL would be an absolutely brilliant family car, I think those who keep politics out of buying decisions would really want one over most other £60k alternatives, plus it's a hell of lot cheaper than likes of an ev9, buzz, better range, performance, handling etc, can't be stolen and wont breakdown on you with an iccu fault.Our X can take 6 people and 2 weeks worth of luggage, the-laws have a 3, the boot size of the 3 is laughable compared to the X. The Y L will be massively compromised for boot space with 6 people in.
I cannot wait to see how much luggage we can stuff into the Ioniq 9. Online reviews suggest 2 large check-ins and 2 medium suite case will fit just in boot with 3rd row up so similar to our current X. But the actual interior space of the 9 is bigger, one suite case can easily fit in the central gangway in 6 seater spec plus all the other flat areas. Totally different league for space compared to the Y.
For a family car, I struggle to understand why you wouldn't want space/practicality of larger SUVs. The Y L is Tesla's cheap way of not replacing the X in the larger SUV segment. You have to really want a Tesla to pick it over the other 6/7 seater EVs around now......Range Rover really do need to hurry up with their EV offer.
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Edited by gangzoom on Thursday 20th August 06:52
Shame they've gone down the subscription route though, but not surprised.
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