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Hi, I have just bought a 2023 Karoq auto but am disappointed to find the car does not creep to allow for slow movement parking.Yes I know, I should have checked during the test drive. Is there a setting I have missed? I have read we can cause damage to the clutches if we use the brake to "creep". Is that correct?
Also, my 12 year old Mercedes auto will hold the car on a hill, perhaps on a queue of traffic, by pressing the HOLD feature but the Karoq will need the Auto stop feature turned on. Is that feature reliable?
Seems twin clutch auto boxes need different treatment from simpler torque converter boxes. Still learning.
Thanks in advance
Question:
Hi, I have just bought a 2023 Karoq auto but am disappointed to find the car does not creep to allow for slow movement parking.Yes I know, I should have checked during the test drive. Is there a setting I have missed? I have read we can cause damage to the clutches if we use the brake to "creep". Is that correct?
Also, my 12 year old Mercedes auto will hold the car on a hill, perhaps on a queue of traffic, by pressing the HOLD feature but the Karoq will need the Auto stop feature turned on. Is that feature reliable?
Seems twin clutch auto boxes need different treatment from simpler torque converter boxes. Still learning.
Thanks in advance
From a search "To enable or restore standard creeping behavior in a 2023 Skoda Karoq DSG, turn off the Auto Hold function using the physical button near the gear selector or disable the electronic parking brake engagement upon stopping. When Auto Hold is active, the car holds the brakes until you press the accelerator, which intentionally prevents creeping." ?
I drove a DSG Golf for 2 years, and son currently has a Fabia DSG.
Once the auto hold is off, some DSGs still take time to get the "creep" moving.
Also you need to avoid having the handbrake on at a stop with no footbrake on, because the car will try to move, and wear out the clutch. This is the bit I find particularly annoying, because the "correct" way to drive is apply handbrake at long stops (e.g. 4-way temporary traffic lights) and remove foot from footbrake appropriately (I know that's been discussed in other threads, so I'll leave it with that short explanation). So in the Fabia I'm now selecting neutral as well, and when needing to go I have to apply footbrake to take D (because of the interlock) and wait for it to take up drive, which can take the full length of the "red+amber" phase.
Once the auto hold is off, some DSGs still take time to get the "creep" moving.
Also you need to avoid having the handbrake on at a stop with no footbrake on, because the car will try to move, and wear out the clutch. This is the bit I find particularly annoying, because the "correct" way to drive is apply handbrake at long stops (e.g. 4-way temporary traffic lights) and remove foot from footbrake appropriately (I know that's been discussed in other threads, so I'll leave it with that short explanation). So in the Fabia I'm now selecting neutral as well, and when needing to go I have to apply footbrake to take D (because of the interlock) and wait for it to take up drive, which can take the full length of the "red+amber" phase.
Tafia69 said:
Sorry but I can't see where to post this question. Perhaps someone will help.
Question:
Hi, I have just bought a 2023 Karoq auto but am disappointed to find the car does not creep to allow for slow movement parking.Yes I know, I should have checked during the test drive. Is there a setting I have missed? I have read we can cause damage to the clutches if we use the brake to "creep". Is that correct?
Also, my 12 year old Mercedes auto will hold the car on a hill, perhaps on a queue of traffic, by pressing the HOLD feature but the Karoq will need the Auto stop feature turned on. Is that feature reliable?
Seems twin clutch auto boxes need different treatment from simpler torque converter boxes. Still learning.
Thanks in advance
Definitely does creep, I've over 50,000 miles in Karoq's, just don't brake to a complete stand still, or gently tap the accelerator to release the Auto Hold or turn Auto Hold off.Question:
Hi, I have just bought a 2023 Karoq auto but am disappointed to find the car does not creep to allow for slow movement parking.Yes I know, I should have checked during the test drive. Is there a setting I have missed? I have read we can cause damage to the clutches if we use the brake to "creep". Is that correct?
Also, my 12 year old Mercedes auto will hold the car on a hill, perhaps on a queue of traffic, by pressing the HOLD feature but the Karoq will need the Auto stop feature turned on. Is that feature reliable?
Seems twin clutch auto boxes need different treatment from simpler torque converter boxes. Still learning.
Thanks in advance
I've got a Scala DSG. I have to reverse out of my drive - put it in R, release brake, & it creeps backwards with almost zero throttle.
I tend to put it in N if I'm at traffic lights & keep the brake pedal depressed. Pick up is usually plenty quick enough when putting it back in D.
However, it has an old skool handbrake which I only bother with if parked on a hill, so I guess electric parking brakes work differently with the DSG(?)
I tend to put it in N if I'm at traffic lights & keep the brake pedal depressed. Pick up is usually plenty quick enough when putting it back in D.
However, it has an old skool handbrake which I only bother with if parked on a hill, so I guess electric parking brakes work differently with the DSG(?)
Biker 1 said:
I've got a Scala DSG. I have to reverse out of my drive - put it in R, release brake, & it creeps backwards with almost zero throttle.
I tend to put it in N if I'm at traffic lights & keep the brake pedal depressed. Pick up is usually plenty quick enough when putting it back in D.
However, it has an old skool handbrake which I only bother with if parked on a hill, so I guess electric parking brakes work differently with the DSG(?)
No Autohold? I tend to put it in N if I'm at traffic lights & keep the brake pedal depressed. Pick up is usually plenty quick enough when putting it back in D.
However, it has an old skool handbrake which I only bother with if parked on a hill, so I guess electric parking brakes work differently with the DSG(?)
My 6 speed will creep once the auto hold handbrake is off, however you do need to control the speed with the brake.
I suspect yours is the dq381 gearbox, service is 80k although I’d be doing that at 40k, don’t forget the Haldex - do this every 20k and also front and rear diff oils every 40k although vag don’t class these as service items.
Personally I think the zf8 walks all over the dsg gearbox.
I suspect yours is the dq381 gearbox, service is 80k although I’d be doing that at 40k, don’t forget the Haldex - do this every 20k and also front and rear diff oils every 40k although vag don’t class these as service items.
Personally I think the zf8 walks all over the dsg gearbox.
Tafia69 said:
Is't that short hold called hill start assist rather than auto hold which,I understand, can hold the car for quite a long time before the handbrake takes over?
Our old (2011) Golf with manual handbrake had hillhold - didn't even know it was there until tried to let it roll backwards down a hill and nothing happened for a couple of seconds then it suddenly let go.I'm not sure if the electric handbrake with autohold models have hillhold as a separate function - I don't think they do, as I'm using daughter's old manual Ateca and with autohold off I don't think it hill holds. I recall getting the car from her house one day (she did use autohold) - her drive slopes towards the house and as I lifted the clutch to reverse off the car nearly rolled into the garage doors.
Wife has a DSG Karoq and don't use autohold in that either. Used to have an old auto Merc and just did the thing of holding the brake with left foot on hills so drive Karoq the same. She had a Tiguan before and autohold always released with a clunk - it was 'nicer' to release the footbrake and let the car start to creep then apply throttle.
The OP has posted the same question on the Karoq section of the Briskoda forum & that started 2 pages of discussion. His 2023 Karoq is a 1.5TSi with the 7-speed dry-clutch DSG (as is my 2024 Karoq). His question was fully answered on that forum.
As stated many times Autohold is there to stop the car moving when stopped. If the driver wants creep then switch it off. I leave Autohold active except sometimes when manoeuvring.
As stated many times Autohold is there to stop the car moving when stopped. If the driver wants creep then switch it off. I leave Autohold active except sometimes when manoeuvring.
stevemcs said:
Personally I think the zf8 walks all over the dsg gearbox.
After several years thinking about this, I'd personally say even a manual walks all over a DSG.So does a (good) CVT.
So does a Yaris mk3 hybrid, which I've been driving recently.
And a proper old-style torque converter knocks the DSG into the hedge.
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