17" spiders.
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groucho

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12,134 posts

275 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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I was reading a thread that was 2 years old, about the spider conversion for the Griffs. It stated that the 18" spiders were too wide for the rear at 8.5 and definitely wouldn't fit the front.
In the thread it stated that 17" spiders didn't exist, is this still the case, being 2 years down the line? My instinct says it is.

One more question, would a [b]308mm[/b] brake upgrade fit under 16" rims?

I'm looking to revamp my griff but keep getting snookered at the last minute. :D If the 17"s existed it would be perfect.

olly

2,174 posts

313 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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Nope, just 16's & 18's for the spiders I'm afraid ! (although I'm sure I've seen a Griff with spiders, so must have been 18's !!!)

308mm should fit under a 16" wheel, although I guess it depends on the caliper (all Cerbs have 306mm rear disks & they fit under 16's with no problems)

groucho

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12,134 posts

275 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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olly said:

308mm should fit under a 16" wheel, although I guess it depends on the caliper


The brake upgrade is a 308mm including caliper.

olly

2,174 posts

313 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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Will be fine then. Just the disks on a Cerb are 306mm !!!

(16" = 406mm)

Tiger

769 posts

263 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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YHM

chevtrev

785 posts

265 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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Its the dish of the outer rim and the offset bud,that will determine if the calliper will fit,not nescercerally the wheel diameter.
You really have to do both in conjuntion if your going to max out the brakes.

excuse the poor spelling,it friday night

puffsorted2

2,442 posts

254 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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TSW manafactured a 17" design called the 'Fusion' made in TVR's offset etc a few years ago that have a very similar design to the spiders.

These are like hens teeth to aquire and the only ones I know of that still exist are on my Chimaera and the Griff LE that is currently for sale on Pistonheads and the TVR CC. The wheels on mine were purchased by the ex owner (Mr Freefall) from the 'The TVR Centre' in 2002 (my car is a 1999)

I have tried to trace the origin of these wheels and it seems a bit of a murky issue. I believe from what I have found out that they may be as few as only twenty wheels ever made and all seem to have been supplied by 'The TVR Centre'. The centre badge is a one off size and one of mine was quite badly yellowed. When I tried to locate one the parts guy at 'The TVR Centre' was stunned - he had one that had been sitting on a shelf with no part number for years and they had be confused as to where it came from - he was that chuffed about finding out its history he sent it to me FOC

Puff

>> Edited by puffsorted2 on Monday 24th October 22:18

alloypearltam

9,586 posts

272 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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I remember seeing a Griff on here about 2 years ago with Spiders fitted. The conversion had been done by Peninsula in Exeter. Maybe worth giving them a call for advice. They are very nice chaps down there.

else

795 posts

267 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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Guillotine has 16" spiders on his Griff.

FlipFlopGriff

7,144 posts

276 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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So does zztop who is down in Devon so not far from you grouch..
FFG

GarryM

1,113 posts

312 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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alloypearltam said:
I remember seeing a Griff on here about 2 years ago with Spiders fitted. The conversion had been done by Peninsula in Exeter. Maybe worth giving them a call for advice. They are very nice chaps down there.
FlipFlopGriff said:
So does zztop who is down in Devon so not far from you grouch..
FFG

zztop has the 18"s fitted by Peninsula.

richb

56,258 posts

313 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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groucho said:
In the thread it stated that 17" spiders didn't exist, is this still the case, being 2 years down the line? My instinct says it is.
Indeed the 16" Spiders were fitted to Tamoras and then everyone wanted 18"s but they were never made in 17" size. Rich...

groucho

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275 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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GarryM said:

zztop has the 18"s fitted by Peninsula.


So, they do fit then.

Bomber Denton

8,762 posts

297 months

Friday 14th October 2005
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They do fit, (cue Jethro voice) 'What happened was..' When the Tamora was introduced it was offered with 16" as standard coupled with an 18" as an option. TVR produced loads of the 16" wheels when most people speccing a new car went for 18". This left TVR with an abundance of 16" rims to get rid of hence the hub/big brake conversion offered for reasonable money.

Most people say that the 18"s don't work for the Griff/Chim (far too harsh) but I know of people that have had good results with the 18 (there's a purple Chim with the plate V8 NUT that has had many a good trackday)

The perfect answer would be to do the hub/brake conversion and possiblry plump for the 17" Raceline as fitted to the Cerb 4.5 as standard.
These wheels are readily available for buttons as most Cerb drivers go for spiders.
Expect to pay as little as £150 for a set with tyres!

Corin

richb

56,258 posts

313 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Bomber Denton said:
plump for the 17" Raceline as fitted to the Cerb 4.5 as standard.
Corin
Corin, just for Groucho's benefit, wasn't there different off-sets for Cerbera front and Cerbera rear wheels? I don't know the answer but does he need to be carfull that they fit in that respect? I am sure I remember people using Tuscan rears as Cerbera fronts or something

groucho

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275 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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Not sure if I like the look of the recelines, no offence to whomever has them BTW. Anybody have a pic of them? I've not really taken much notice before.

I've been looking at alloys on the web and haven't seen anything I like, the spiders look good though. Just a shame they don't do 17"s

richb

56,258 posts

313 months

Monday 17th October 2005
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groucho said:
Anybody have a pic of them?
Err.. take a look at my profile Rich...

Hoover33

5,993 posts

271 months

Tuesday 18th October 2005
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Bloke around away with Spyders....... cant remember his name though

Dark green griff with Nitron suspension... if that helps

Baldy67

301 posts

268 months

Friday 21st October 2005
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Hoover33 said:
Bloke around away with Spyders....... cant remember his name though

Dark green griff with Nitron suspension... if that helps

This may be "Precat".I met him and his Mrs. at the Growl this year.
Baldy.