How long do your brake pads last?
How long do your brake pads last?
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brillomaster

Original Poster:

1,795 posts

197 months

Saturday 20th June
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And what pads are you using?

Im currently using using EBC blues on my boxster, which last 2.9 trackdays, which isn't great. Previously ive had PF08 and Pagid RS14, which lasted a lot longer, but cost twice as much, which makes it really difficult to stomach.

I've heard good things about EBC RP1/RPX, so tempted to try them next time.

Whats everyone else running these days? Any strong recommendations?

My car is a 50% road, 50% track car, so I really want to avoid brake squeal.

Dynion Araf Uchaf

5,132 posts

250 months

Saturday 20th June
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I run the EPC RBX on my i20n

They are ok and will probably last longer that the blues, but I don’t like the pedal feel. ABS kicks in at about 45% brake pressure according to my dash.

Are the pagids 3x the price? If not I’d go back to using them

E-bmw

12,910 posts

179 months

Sunday 21st June
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When I used to do track days until a couple of years ago I tried many on a variety of cars but always came to the same conclusion.

EBC are crap & would barely last a full day on the front.

RS29 would last a year.

DS1.11 would last a year.

DS UNO would last a year.

All were vastly superiour to EBC and worked even in road use (to & from only) when required.

EBC fronts were around £100

The others always cost around £300 but with no visits under the car to change it was a no-brainer for me.

brillomaster

Original Poster:

1,795 posts

197 months

Wednesday 24th June
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Looks like the cheapest pagids are £550 ish... rs29s are more like 650.

Ebc rpx are 440, so likely to give them a go. Though, might squeeze as many more laps of bedford as I can before binning them. I need new discs anyways, so some light scoring is fine.

mackie1

8,169 posts

260 months

Wednesday 24th June
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
I run the EPC RBX on my i20n

They are ok and will probably last longer that the blues, but I don t like the pedal feel. ABS kicks in at about 45% brake pressure according to my dash.

Are the pagids 3x the price? If not I d go back to using them
RP-1 are probably more suitable then as they have a lower friction coefficient and better modulation but still happy to operate at high temps with no fade. I use them on my GR86 to good effect. They’re so cheap (sub £100 a set with discount) that they’re a no brainer IMO.

If your view of EBC is based on pads of old then I’d say give the RP-1/X family a try. Stainless backing plates are a bonus too.

brillomaster

Original Poster:

1,795 posts

197 months

Wednesday 24th June
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Rp1 are for over servoed brakes common on modern cars. Rpx are for underservoed vehicles. My boxster has a very firm pedal and very little assistance, especially since fitting a gt3 master cylinder, so it'll be rpx for me.

Throttlebody

2,875 posts

81 months

Saturday 27th June
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The EBC RP1/X compounds are great price/performance choice.

I tend to run the RP1 on the rears and a Pagid RS29 or Carbotech XP8 on the front for a bit better modulation and longevity on reasonably heavy cars in the 1300-1700 kg range.

Tracklover

98 posts

1 month

Saturday 27th June
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My rule of thumb is:

On a budget / not going flat out on trackdays = Ferodo DS2500 or PBS

Best you can get = Upper end of the Carbone Lorraine range

mej20au

1 posts

1 month

Monday 29th June
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2.9 track days seems very low for pads to last. Maybe you are braking harder than me!

On my GT4 the original Porsche pads lasted about two years, including about 4 or 5 track days from me and a few more from the first owner.

When it came time to replace I went for the Pagid Yellow (RSL29). I replaced the discs with OEM Sebro discs, which came in about half the cost of the Porsche-labeled part, giving more ability to invest in pads, if you like.

Yet to wear them out so I can't give you a durability view. They do squeal a bit on the road though so I think only make sense if your car is mainly a track car.

brillomaster

Original Poster:

1,795 posts

197 months

Monday 29th June
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I might try and squeeze one more day out of the pads i have now... as I say, I need new discs anyways.

Wonder if perhaps gt4 brakes are rather more suited to track work than boxster s brakes... but I do like good braking performance. Will see if the next pads fare any better.

Cambs_Stuart

3,504 posts

111 months

Thursday
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I've had a few sets on my clio. Mintex M1144s were fitted when I got the car. They did fade with some abuse, but lasted OK. The M1144s were great on the road. Then moved to PFC097. never faded, lasted for ages (10 days+) but the dust was awful and I ended up having to get the wheels refurbished. Went back to Mintex for M1155s, which lasted ok (5 or 6 days) and stopped ok. Pretty good for the price. Currently got PBS Pro track, which are very similar to the M1155s, just more expensive, and wearing faster.
Mintex have got some new compounds out, which I'll try next.

braddo

12,175 posts

215 months

mej20au said:
When it came time to replace I went for the Pagid Yellow (RSL29). I replaced the discs with OEM Sebro discs, which came in about half the cost of the Porsche-labeled part, giving more ability to invest in pads, if you like.
I did the same on my 997 GT3 and was very happy with the results. The only downside was that the holes in the discs fill up with dust which then affects braking performance, so I began having to clear out all the holes halfway through every track day.

Pad squeal was infrequent but sometimes in town. It might depend on bedding in and maybe the leading edge of the pad getting chamfered before fitting.

OP, I'd expect you'd get 10-15 track days out of a set of RSL29s (or whatever today's equivalent is). They're big money but with fantastic performance and far less changing of pads. The cost per track day won't be any more than standard pads or EBCs.

brillomaster

Original Poster:

1,795 posts

197 months

Wow if I can get 10 trackdays that would be good value for money! Would be nice to not have to faff around with brake pads too often, especially considering that I don't change them myself.

E-bmw

12,910 posts

179 months

brillomaster said:
Wow if I can get 10 trackdays that would be good value for money! Would be nice to not have to faff around with brake pads too often, especially considering that I don't change them myself.
Which is exactly what I pointed out to you the day after your first post.

hooch500

186 posts

82 months

No mention of Endless pads which equal the best Pagids and CL but are relatively reasonably priced. EBC are awful frankly including RP1’s.