Kia EV6 after 6 weeks ownership
Kia EV6 after 6 weeks ownership
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Stevemr

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875 posts

183 months

Wednesday 10th June
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6 weeks ago we bought an EV6 air long range, it was a pre reg 2025 with 11 miles on the clock. It replaced our Sorento, having sold our caravan last year, we no longer needed a tow vehicle. HA! More on that in a minute.
Buying a pre reg saved nearly a third off list price.

Before buying it I got a lot of advice on here about pros and cons, range, charging at home, etc.
So I thought some feedback would be good!

We have driven 2400 miles in 6 weeks.

COST
The car says it’s achieved 4.2 kw/mile.
Electric used
Home 589 kw at 20.5p a kw. Cost £120.75
Ionity 52 kw at 57 p. A kw Cost £30.31
So effective use 3.8 kw a mile. I am guessing loss of electrons during charging with a granny charger on a 10 meter cable.
And more importantly 6.3p a mile!!!!
We took out a plan with ionity which cost £50 a year.
We are not in an EV tarif.
We are using a Masterplug 10 amp charger from screwfix.

HASSLE
At home we are charging with a granny charger cost £140. I installed an EV specific socket. I thought charging may be a hassle, but it just isn’t. It’s a one minute job to plug it in. Because we are retired it’s not an issue maintaining the charge.
We have charged at Ionity stations twice. Again zero hassle, and fast. I am sure there will be hassle with public chargers at some point.
We have ionity subscription, BP and shell and the Kia charge cards.
So far though absolutely no Hassle.

RANGE
It’s supposed to do 370. We have not done more than 200 on a single charge, that was charged to 80 % and it still said there was 100 miles left, obviously that’s summer time, and we are pretty steady drivers in this car. It’s basically a non issue though as it charges so quickly on a fast charger.

DRIVING
Ok this is the biggest surprise, just how much my wife and I love the driving experience. Caveat we both like torque, our other car is an Audi A4 cab 3.0tdi chipped to 300bhp. And my bikes include a GSX1400 and an XJR1300, so we love torque!
And the EV6 delivers, it’s so smooth and refined!
The various driving “aids,” are really not too intrusive.
It’s more than quick enough, but equally happy to just cruise along.
It’s a nice place to be.
So all in all very pleased with it.

NEXT
Tomorrow we get a towbar fitted. And in two weeks we buy another caravan. This was not planned for when we bought the car! Started another thread on this.

Hopefully that’s helpful to anyone thinking about going electric.



gmaz

5,307 posts

237 months

Wednesday 10th June
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Stevemr said:
We have charged at Ionity stations twice. Again zero hassle, and fast. I am sure there will be hassle with public chargers at some point.
We have ionity subscription, BP and shell and the Kia charge cards.
Glad you're having a good experience but you will probably have problems with BP and Shell.

An Electroverse card is useful for public chargers, even if you are not on an Octopus tariff. Lots of different charger networks with the same card https://electroverse.com/



Stevemr

Original Poster:

875 posts

183 months

Wednesday 10th June
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Yes I have read BP and she’ll not so good.
Will get an electro verse card. Thanks for that.
Will also try the Tesla chargers.

Dave Hedgehog

16,127 posts

231 months

Wednesday 10th June
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i am very happy with mine, so glad i took the gamble about a year ago, its like a large AMG GLA45

i hated pretty much every minute of the 6 years i owned a model 3

stevemcs

10,115 posts

120 months

Wednesday 10th June
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Take a look at Andrew Ditton for towing with an EV6,

gmaz

5,307 posts

237 months

Wednesday 10th June
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Stevemr said:
Yes I have read BP and she ll not so good.
Will get an electro verse card. Thanks for that.
Will also try the Tesla chargers.
Email me for a £5 referral code if you like wink


Edited by gmaz on Wednesday 10th June 14:44

SWoll

22,445 posts

285 months

Wednesday 10th June
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Dave Hedgehog said:
i am very happy with mine, so glad i took the gamble about a year ago, its like a large AMG GLA45

i hated pretty much every minute of the 6 years i owned a model 3
Blimey. That's a long time to live with a car you hate?

Quite enjoyed our M3P for the 2 years we had it, although not been tempted by another in the 5 years since it went back.

sixor8

8,314 posts

295 months

Wednesday 10th June
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I have to ask why not an EV tariff? You could charge for several hours per night for less than 10p per kWh (depending on supplier).

You averaged 400 miles per week; I average under 500 miles per month and use more electricity charging my EV than the rest of the house combined. Yes, it's slightly higher than the cap in the daytime but is way more offset.

I also charge using a 3 pin plug only. Don't forget to allow for the amount of charge actually held by the car when comparing usage. smile

Stevemr

Original Poster:

875 posts

183 months

Wednesday 10th June
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Hi,
Yes watched all Andrew’s videos, leaves me with a sense of optimism!
Re home charging. Did sums, admittedly only with EDF, and based on 12000 miles a year. Difference only about £150 a year based on normal house usage. Wall box would be quite an awkward install and a £1000. Going on EV tarif and using 3 pin charger would not work for us with only 6 hours a night. Needed a 3 pin charger anyway so thought I would see how it went.

Sheepshanks

40,227 posts

146 months

Wednesday 10th June
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Stevemr said:
COST
The car says it s achieved 4.2 kw/mile.
Electric used
Home 589 kw at 20.5p a kw. Cost £120.75
Ionity 52 kw at 57 p. A kw Cost £30.31
So effective use 3.8 kw a mile. I am guessing loss of electrons during charging with a granny charger on a 10 meter cable.
Around 10% charging loss is pretty good with a granny charger. The losses are in the car's onboard charger itself, and some are fixed so they make a bigger difference at low charge current. I've seen people talk of 20-30%.

blueg33

45,710 posts

251 months

Wednesday 10th June
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Towing a brick shaped lump of fibreglass and hardboard is going to hit the range!

Fendynand

15 posts

3 months

Wednesday 10th June
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With EDF you can get an EV tariff of 6p/ kWh which makes running super cheap. You get 7 hours per night at cheap rate, and the day rate is only 25p (You do need a smart meter, which they will fit for free)

Stevemr

Original Poster:

875 posts

183 months

Wednesday 10th June
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Fitting a charger is definitely something I will consider in the future.

Stevemr

Original Poster:

875 posts

183 months

Wednesday 10th June
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Yes, towing a caravan will decimate the fuel consumption, I’m expecting to stop every 100 miles.

stevemcs

10,115 posts

120 months

Wednesday 10th June
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Stevemr said:
Yes, towing a caravan will decimate the fuel consumption, I m expecting to stop every 100 miles.
V2L is what appeals with the ev, I’m not at the point where I’d swap to an EV for towing as the range is not there for me.

I think Dittons worst experience was when the EV broke down and recovery was a nightmare, but that was just the RAC not the cars fault.

p4cks

7,434 posts

226 months

Wednesday 10th June
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I'm 6 weeks into my EV6 ownership, albeit mine's a 2022 with a fair few miles. Coming from a Tesla Model 3 Long Range the differences are night and day and with the Tesla you're very spoiled and it's clear that it's been made by an electric car company as opposed to a traditional ICE manufacturer who are now making EVs.

That said, the EV6 has grown on me and I suspect I'll keep it a while because there's little else that comes near it for real world range and value for money.

Let us know how you get on with the towing, I'm all ears.

Fendynand

15 posts

3 months

Thursday 11th June
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p4cks said:
I'm 6 weeks into my EV6 ownership, albeit mine's a 2022 with a fair few miles. Coming from a Tesla Model 3 Long Range the differences are night and day and with the Tesla you're very spoiled and it's clear that it's been made by an electric car company as opposed to a traditional ICE manufacturer who are now making EVs.

That said, the EV6 has grown on me and I suspect I'll keep it a while because there's little else that comes near it for real world range and value for money.

Let us know how you get on with the towing, I'm all ears.
Could you elaborate a bit on that please?

It would be interesting to hear which bits you found that Tesla did better vs which bits KIA had nailed?

Is it just the Supercharger network (which I'm not bothered with for my usage) or is there more?

Thank you

ATG

23,443 posts

299 months

Thursday 11th June
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blueg33 said:
Towing a brick shaped lump of fibreglass and hardboard is going to hit the range!
Would be interesting to see some data or first hand experience.

You're certainly right that it's the aerodynamics that would make a difference. A flatbed trailer, even when carrying a fair bit of weight, doesn't make much difference to EV range precisely because it doesn't contribute much to aerodynamic drag. I can imagine it might be a bit different with a caravan, bit it would be interesting to see it quantified.

p4cks

7,434 posts

226 months

Thursday 11th June
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Fendynand said:
p4cks said:
I'm 6 weeks into my EV6 ownership, albeit mine's a 2022 with a fair few miles. Coming from a Tesla Model 3 Long Range the differences are night and day and with the Tesla you're very spoiled and it's clear that it's been made by an electric car company as opposed to a traditional ICE manufacturer who are now making EVs.

That said, the EV6 has grown on me and I suspect I'll keep it a while because there's little else that comes near it for real world range and value for money.

Let us know how you get on with the towing, I'm all ears.
Could you elaborate a bit on that please?

It would be interesting to hear which bits you found that Tesla did better vs which bits KIA had nailed?

Is it just the Supercharger network (which I'm not bothered with for my usage) or is there more?

Thank you
The whole experience of driving the Tesla is so much easier. Your phone is the key, you just need to approach the car and you open the handle and you're in. Once you are in you put your foot on brake and use the stalk to put it into D and you're away. Same when you leave the car you put it in park and walk away and it does the rest. The driving settings are all saved.

In the Kia you have to have a physical key, you then have to press the button on the fob to unlock the door. You open the handle, you get in. You then press the Power On button, you then select D using the little wheel and then I click the paddle to get it to i-Pedal and I press and hold the lane departure button to disengage it. The settings are not saved when you turn the car off. Also when you get out, it does not unlock all doors so you have to press the unlock button to open the back doors. When you walk away it does not lock itself.

It's the little things and absolutely a first world problem but I preferred the Tesla experience in this regard.



W12GT

4,348 posts

248 months

Thursday 11th June
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Fendynand said:
With EDF you can get an EV tariff of 6p/ kWh which makes running super cheap. You get 7 hours per night at cheap rate, and the day rate is only 25p (You do need a smart meter, which they will fit for free)
Where did you get this tariff and what is it called? I’ve just looked and the best I see I 7p for 7hours overnight and over 30p for the rest of the day….