Jeremy Bamber: Proof of Innocence. Ch5 tonight.
Discussion
tim0409 said:
Super Sonic said:
Digger said:
If anything can bring back Welshbeef it ll be this thread . . .
You think Welshbeef killed them?Legacywr said:
The missing phone call.
New evidence that could prove Bamber is innocent of the 5 murders of his family in 1985.
Guilty as Hell, His legally aided legal team are just using Homer Simpsons Maxim to Bart "Keep complaining and complaining until you find someone who gives in"New evidence that could prove Bamber is innocent of the 5 murders of his family in 1985.
k. Watched the documentary last night & remain open regarding his innocence plea.
However certain parts of the "new" evidence are not convincing
My suspicion is the establishment will not admit the conviction is unsafe. Innocent or not he will not have his conviction quashed.
However certain parts of the "new" evidence are not convincing
- the 999 call - if someone had made that call or could be heard & it was Sheila, why did all the police outside not hear 2 shots as she committed suicide?
- how does somebody shoot themselves twice in the neck to commit suicide & she appear simply to be lying down with the gun in her hands?
My suspicion is the establishment will not admit the conviction is unsafe. Innocent or not he will not have his conviction quashed.
I enjoy watching period cases being investigated.
But the downside is,what was I doing that year...& then Crikey.
I know that the Police were a bit suspect in the mid seventies & eighties.
Forensic science was in its infancy... manual fingerprint checks & blood grouping probably their main instruments
Everybody was a suspect... & looking for a quick 'nick'
I'm really on the fence with this one. It's all a bit suspicious on on the Police side.
Law Commission: is still plodding away.
Police: Bamber did it & is in the right place.
But I have a gut feeling, within the next few years he will be released.
He's not a danger to the public anymore.
(Save egg on face & avoid opening the floodgates)
But the downside is,what was I doing that year...& then Crikey.
I know that the Police were a bit suspect in the mid seventies & eighties.
Forensic science was in its infancy... manual fingerprint checks & blood grouping probably their main instruments
Everybody was a suspect... & looking for a quick 'nick'
I'm really on the fence with this one. It's all a bit suspicious on on the Police side.
Law Commission: is still plodding away.
Police: Bamber did it & is in the right place.
But I have a gut feeling, within the next few years he will be released.
He's not a danger to the public anymore.
(Save egg on face & avoid opening the floodgates)
Edited by Milkyway on Tuesday 9th June 12:18
The evidence regarding the shotgun. Both tests were with the gun to the skin and the relevant marks that were left. But isn't the whole point that if Bamber or someone else shot her, they may have been knelt by her feet a distance away from point of impact. It wasn't a cartridge, so wouldn't have scattered. Does anyone know what the wounds would have look like from that that scenario, ie silencer or no silencer from that distance?
The letters, were they dated? Were they possibly written as a child or her growing up in the house?
The letters, were they dated? Were they possibly written as a child or her growing up in the house?
Parts of the interviews were edited into 'snippets'.
(The first on the scene Police officers had over taken Jeremy's Vauxhall going so slowly that they have previously stated that in normal business they would have pulled over a car going so slowly on empty country roads at night.)
If Bambi did it, you have to claim that in her crazed state she was able to reload the rifle (not shotgun) magazine atleast twice.(25 shots). Did she have a box of bullets on her person? & was the floor awash with dropped bullets? Pretty neat accuracy for a woman supposed to be 'mad' & 'out of control' too.
Slightly built Bambi, in her supposed state, was able to fight, inflict injuries & overcome her 6 feet 4 inch father, Nevill during the fight in the kitchen?
She also did all this without getting her bare feet dirty or bloody. How?
In previous versions Jeremy has claimed he saw someone in the house whilst he was outside with the officers. No mention of that this time just the 6.05 '999 call'. We could do with an explanation of what the 'open 999 line' in the Police log actually means.
Essex Police were very sloppy and amateur. However if they wanted an easy 'nick' they would have gone with Bambi as the guilty party, which they did initially with the scene before them.
The discovery of the letters doesn't alter the points like Bambi v Nevill, the clean feet, the supposed skill with the rifle and reloading of Bambi, Jeremy driving slowly to this emergency at the farm house almost like he didn't want to be first on the scene, etc.
Dramatic headline grabbing TV, but doesn't alter my perception of this tragic event that I remember from day one.
(The first on the scene Police officers had over taken Jeremy's Vauxhall going so slowly that they have previously stated that in normal business they would have pulled over a car going so slowly on empty country roads at night.)
If Bambi did it, you have to claim that in her crazed state she was able to reload the rifle (not shotgun) magazine atleast twice.(25 shots). Did she have a box of bullets on her person? & was the floor awash with dropped bullets? Pretty neat accuracy for a woman supposed to be 'mad' & 'out of control' too.
Slightly built Bambi, in her supposed state, was able to fight, inflict injuries & overcome her 6 feet 4 inch father, Nevill during the fight in the kitchen?
She also did all this without getting her bare feet dirty or bloody. How?
In previous versions Jeremy has claimed he saw someone in the house whilst he was outside with the officers. No mention of that this time just the 6.05 '999 call'. We could do with an explanation of what the 'open 999 line' in the Police log actually means.
Essex Police were very sloppy and amateur. However if they wanted an easy 'nick' they would have gone with Bambi as the guilty party, which they did initially with the scene before them.
The discovery of the letters doesn't alter the points like Bambi v Nevill, the clean feet, the supposed skill with the rifle and reloading of Bambi, Jeremy driving slowly to this emergency at the farm house almost like he didn't want to be first on the scene, etc.
Dramatic headline grabbing TV, but doesn't alter my perception of this tragic event that I remember from day one.
Link to: additional injuries to the adult victims not disclosed at trial.
WARNING: before you go in, there are images of some of the injuries which caused the death of two of the victims.
WARNING: before you go in, there are images of some of the injuries which caused the death of two of the victims.
Glassman said:
Link to: additional injuries to the adult victims not disclosed at trial.
WARNING: before you go in, there are images of some of the injuries which caused the death of two of the victims.
Blimey! WARNING: before you go in, there are images of some of the injuries which caused the death of two of the victims.
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