Safe season Bikers but please dont do this...
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Wishing our two wheeled brothers and sisters a safe season I will be watching the TT dreaming about having a Ducati (No license)
One thing I see an awful lot of bikers do and its one to really brush up and make sure this isn't you...driving a long all too often I see bikes coming the other way and if you meet on a bend the bikes often place their wheels on the white line and lean into the bend.....into the fresh air where my bumper is on the opposite carriageway. This decapitates one or two riders a year up near us at the Squires cafe. I was on the road earlier and. big group of bikes passed the other way and TWO riders did this. In my T7 van I have nowhere to go so please dont stick your head in the opposite lane it will hurt you guys most. Stay safe bikies!
One thing I see an awful lot of bikers do and its one to really brush up and make sure this isn't you...driving a long all too often I see bikes coming the other way and if you meet on a bend the bikes often place their wheels on the white line and lean into the bend.....into the fresh air where my bumper is on the opposite carriageway. This decapitates one or two riders a year up near us at the Squires cafe. I was on the road earlier and. big group of bikes passed the other way and TWO riders did this. In my T7 van I have nowhere to go so please dont stick your head in the opposite lane it will hurt you guys most. Stay safe bikies!
fridaypassion said:
Wishing our two wheeled brothers and sisters a safe season I will be watching the TT dreaming about having a Ducati (No license)
One thing I see an awful lot of bikers do and its one to really brush up and make sure this isn't you...driving a long all too often I see bikes coming the other way and if you meet on a bend the bikes often place their wheels on the white line and lean into the bend.....into the fresh air where my bumper is on the opposite carriageway. This decapitates one or two riders a year up near us at the Squires cafe. I was on the road earlier and. big group of bikes passed the other way and TWO riders did this. In my T7 van I have nowhere to go so please dont stick your head in the opposite lane it will hurt you guys most. Stay safe bikies!
Ignore the sarcastic comments, yes true, car drivers are no angels, (My son nearly had his leg amputated by a car driver pulling out in front of him, when he was doing 30 mph in broad daylight with lights on and wearing hi viz), but far too often I see bikers ride round corners on the wrong side of the road thinking they are Barry Sheene,One thing I see an awful lot of bikers do and its one to really brush up and make sure this isn't you...driving a long all too often I see bikes coming the other way and if you meet on a bend the bikes often place their wheels on the white line and lean into the bend.....into the fresh air where my bumper is on the opposite carriageway. This decapitates one or two riders a year up near us at the Squires cafe. I was on the road earlier and. big group of bikes passed the other way and TWO riders did this. In my T7 van I have nowhere to go so please dont stick your head in the opposite lane it will hurt you guys most. Stay safe bikies!
Wacky Racer said:
Ignore the sarcastic comments, yes true, car drivers are no angels, (My son nearly had his leg amputated by a car driver pulling out in front of him, when he was doing 30 mph in broad daylight with lights on and wearing hi viz), but far too often I see bikers ride round corners on the wrong side of the road thinking they are Barry Sheene,
Ignore anyone telling you to ignore other people.
There are far too many people in cars and on bikes cutting right hand bends near me at the moment.
Bikers, I don’t think most of them are trying to go any faster or think they’re on the TT, it mostly comes down to fear that they won’t make the bend.
There is still a lot of mistrust in tyres (especially in rain) and the ability to turn a bike using counter steering.
Of course add in the usual yadda yadda about potholes/general condition of the roads.
Other side of the road, but sentiment is the same:
Bikers, I don’t think most of them are trying to go any faster or think they’re on the TT, it mostly comes down to fear that they won’t make the bend.
There is still a lot of mistrust in tyres (especially in rain) and the ability to turn a bike using counter steering.
Of course add in the usual yadda yadda about potholes/general condition of the roads.
Other side of the road, but sentiment is the same:
Geertsen said:
The complaints from the bikers here don t make any sense.
The OP is making a friendly suggesting how some bikers can help themselves stay safe, while the biker replies are suggesting how car drivers can keep THEM safe. It s two different things.
By virtue of not having their heads taken off by passing cars they likely don't need a reminder not to stick it in front of 2 tons of metal with a differential speed of 120mph+. The OP is making a friendly suggesting how some bikers can help themselves stay safe, while the biker replies are suggesting how car drivers can keep THEM safe. It s two different things.
I know I don't.
the cueball said:
There are far too many people in cars and on bikes cutting right hand bends near me at the moment.
Bikers, I don t think most of them are trying to go any faster or think they re on the TT, it mostly comes down to fear that they won t make the bend.
There is still a lot of mistrust in tyres (especially in rain) and the ability to turn a bike using counter steering.
Of course add in the usual yadda yadda about potholes/general condition of the roads.
Other side of the road, but sentiment is the same:
100% agree, criticism of the OP seems a bit loopy considering the post is bang on. As are the comments about inattention of drivers.Bikers, I don t think most of them are trying to go any faster or think they re on the TT, it mostly comes down to fear that they won t make the bend.
There is still a lot of mistrust in tyres (especially in rain) and the ability to turn a bike using counter steering.
Of course add in the usual yadda yadda about potholes/general condition of the roads.
Other side of the road, but sentiment is the same:
It’s “not all bikers” just as much as “not all drivers”, hence my sarcasm.
Most fatal bike accidents are single vehicle accidents. But the condescending post from the OP does deserve a f
k Off because it helps nobody whilst position himself as Worlds Best Driver.
I bet he tells smokers to cut back too.
Most fatal bike accidents are single vehicle accidents. But the condescending post from the OP does deserve a f
k Off because it helps nobody whilst position himself as Worlds Best Driver.I bet he tells smokers to cut back too.
While I'm sure the OP is well intentioned, the concept that posting a safety message on here will have any direct impact on the riders he sees on the road is, at best, naieve.
Additionally, while "near miss" events are undoutedly scarey for all involved, we need to understand if such situations actually result in many accidents. I ask that because I, like most on here I'm sure, have found myself riding a little to close to the oncoming traffic due to poor corner lines. However, I didn't just say "ah well" and wait for the impact, I changed my line and avoided as, I'm sure, pretty much everyone else does. The result is no accident!
As mentioned a number of times, if the OP is really keen to "help" bikers then his efforts would be better spent on educating car drivers, as I'm sure he knows almost all of them, to "Think Bike' and try to reduce the very common SMIDSY accidents.
Or, in the real world, to pass his test, get a Ducati, attend biker meets like the TT (I'm going to the Dolomites though) and pass on his pearls of wisdom there.
Additionally, while "near miss" events are undoutedly scarey for all involved, we need to understand if such situations actually result in many accidents. I ask that because I, like most on here I'm sure, have found myself riding a little to close to the oncoming traffic due to poor corner lines. However, I didn't just say "ah well" and wait for the impact, I changed my line and avoided as, I'm sure, pretty much everyone else does. The result is no accident!
As mentioned a number of times, if the OP is really keen to "help" bikers then his efforts would be better spent on educating car drivers, as I'm sure he knows almost all of them, to "Think Bike' and try to reduce the very common SMIDSY accidents.
Or, in the real world, to pass his test, get a Ducati, attend biker meets like the TT (I'm going to the Dolomites though) and pass on his pearls of wisdom there.
the cueball said:
There are far too many people in cars and on bikes cutting right hand bends near me at the moment.
Bikers, I don t think most of them are trying to go any faster or think they re on the TT, it mostly comes down to fear that they won t make the bend.
There is still a lot of mistrust in tyres (especially in rain) and the ability to turn a bike using counter steering.
Of course add in the usual yadda yadda about potholes/general condition of the roads.
Other side of the road, but sentiment is the same:
They're both on the wrong side of the road! Bikers, I don t think most of them are trying to go any faster or think they re on the TT, it mostly comes down to fear that they won t make the bend.
There is still a lot of mistrust in tyres (especially in rain) and the ability to turn a bike using counter steering.
Of course add in the usual yadda yadda about potholes/general condition of the roads.
Other side of the road, but sentiment is the same:
Geertsen said:
The complaints from the bikers here don t make any sense.
The OP is making a friendly suggesting how some bikers can help themselves stay safe, while the biker replies are suggesting how car drivers can keep THEM safe. It s two different things.
You’re forgetting one of the first rules of PH forums.The OP is making a friendly suggesting how some bikers can help themselves stay safe, while the biker replies are suggesting how car drivers can keep THEM safe. It s two different things.
THE OP IS ALWAYS WRONG AND TO BLAME.
Some fun I’ve had with cars over the past few years.
Dead straight road, just kept on driving at me.
Round a tight bend, that’s blind for both of us
Finally, you’d think this guy had just overtaken me, but no, I’d just caught him up and this was how he was taking the upcoming right hand bend.
Dead straight road, just kept on driving at me.
Round a tight bend, that’s blind for both of us
Finally, you’d think this guy had just overtaken me, but no, I’d just caught him up and this was how he was taking the upcoming right hand bend.
At this time of year we often get posts from drivers commenting on riding they've seen by others: by the standard of those posts the OP is fair, I didn't find it condescending. Maybe I'm being condescending when I have the same thoughts; if the OP was a biker would it change the reception? Thoughts like "I wish that guy would get some training, or at least realise the chances he's taking with that habit" are well meaning.
I also know others will look at my riding and say "Woah! Look at that fking idiot!". Some condescending aholes will make comment occasionally too. 
I also know others will look at my riding and say "Woah! Look at that f
king idiot!". Some condescending aholes will make comment occasionally too. Linksmas said:
It s not all bikers just as much as not all drivers , hence my sarcasm.
Most fatal bike accidents are single vehicle accidents. But the condescending post from the OP does deserve a fk Off because it helps nobody whilst position himself as Worlds Best Driver.
I bet he tells smokers to cut back too.
A slight correction but, according to government stats, the most likely type of crash to kill a biker is with a car (2020-2024, at least):Most fatal bike accidents are single vehicle accidents. But the condescending post from the OP does deserve a f
k Off because it helps nobody whilst position himself as Worlds Best Driver.I bet he tells smokers to cut back too.
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