Does the annual RFL price determine the car you'll buy?
Does the annual RFL price determine the car you'll buy?
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rjfp1962

Original Poster:

9,361 posts

103 months

Monday 18th May
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I've recently got rid of my MX-5, replacing it with a 2016 Mini Cooper 1.5 Automatic.

The reason, in part, is my ageing feet with occasional gout, and a bunion on my left one!

But I couldn't ignore the Mini being £20 a year compared to the MX-5 being £200 next time round!

Just might be an age issue all round TBH! rofl

I do like the Mini though smile

Over to you.....



DP1

289 posts

251 months

Monday 18th May
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I've been think about a second car and looking at Porsche 996 and 997s. The difference in RFL is influencing my thinking I must admit.

As a pensioner now I've not got as much fun money as I used to have.

coubpro

4 posts

19 months

Monday 18th May
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DP1 said:
I've been think about a second car and looking at Porsche 996 and 997s. The difference in RFL is influencing my thinking I must admit.

As a pensioner now I've not got as much fun money as I used to have - so I’m looking at the practical side a lot more these days a bit like with WordPress security really, where spending a little time on prevention can save you a lot of money and hassle later.
As a second car, the 996 still makes a lot of sense value-wise, but I can see how the ongoing costs might push you towards being more selective.

Edited by coubpro on Friday 22 May 11:33

brillomaster

1,880 posts

200 months

Monday 18th May
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Absolutely. My current weekend car is specifically a 2005 boxster, because i dont want to pay £750 or whatever it would have been for a 2006. And ill be avoiding any car from 2006-2008 or so in the super high band.

And my next daily will be specifically a 2015 or 2016 car, because I want to pay the low band £35 a year not the £190 flat rate a year for a 2017 onwards.

Gotta play the system.


TrevorHill

1,228 posts

21 months

Monday 18th May
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No it’s just one of those things, you’re a long time dead.

brillomaster said:
Gotta play the system.
I’ve been told, by a medical professional, that a blue badge has its advantages.

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

263 months

Monday 18th May
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No. It's no deterrent. Just another greenwashed revenue raiser. No doubt by design.

It is only a significant sum for year one when buying new. Even in the top bands it is less than the depreciation you can expect.


Gad-Westy

16,611 posts

243 months

Monday 18th May
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Just another cost in the melting pot of overall running cost for me. Could tip the balance one way or the other but the RFL specifically probably wouldn't be a show stopper on it's own.

Trevor555

5,494 posts

114 months

Monday 18th May
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brillomaster said:
And my next daily will be specifically a 2015 or 2016 car, because I want to pay the low band £35 a year not the £190 flat rate a year for a 2017 onwards.

Gotta play the system.
Just bought a Seat Ibiza FR estate 2016 with £35 tax, for fishing duties, and dumping in Southampton when we're cruising.

No stop start, no bings & dongs, no AEB, a proper key, a proper handbrake.

Bliss.

I bet the government don't leave the low tax bands for long though.

Dog Biscuit

2,700 posts

27 months

Monday 18th May
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There's lots of cars I've looked at and then seen the >£700 RFL and duly fked them off.

Anything more that about £250 can FRO

njw1

2,791 posts

141 months

Monday 18th May
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My car is in band M so, err, no.... smile

itcaptainslow

4,782 posts

166 months

Monday 18th May
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I’d struggle with the mental barrier of buying something in the £760 odd top bracket, unless it was properly special.

MikeM6

6,063 posts

132 months

Monday 18th May
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No, tax will never stop me enjoying the cars I want. Life is too short for that!

_Rodders_

4,644 posts

49 months

Monday 18th May
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I avoid the top rate.

Lester H

4,411 posts

135 months

Monday 18th May
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Yes. If I were a rich man I wouldn’t care. However, in the real world for non-exotic cars, around £300 is max. And for runarounds, second/ third cars the cut off point is 2017. The tax saved allows you to pick up a nice low mileage example.

Macneil

1,100 posts

110 months

Monday 18th May
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I've just bought a car that falls into the "luxury" bracket for a few years yet. I'd been trying to avoid it but I really liked the car, and I really enjoy using it, so I'll just suck it up.

I think it'll be harder to avoid as time goes on, it's really frustrating to see nice cars at say £41k when really yuo'd expect the threshhold to rise each year, like income tax used to.

Doesitdrive

2,047 posts

11 months

Monday 18th May
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Lester H said:
Yes. If I were a rich man I wouldn t care. However, in the real world for non-exotic cars, around £300 is max. And for runarounds, second/ third cars the cut off point is 2017. The tax saved allows you to pick up a nice low mileage example.
Therein lies the reason for older cars in short supply, they have daily shrinking numbers, and prices are mental.

It is where the market is right now, as this thread is showing lol.

dreamcracker

3,338 posts

247 months

Monday 18th May
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I refuse to buy any vehicle with annual tax over £700.
My daily commute vehicle is 20 years old and VED £445 which will do me until retirement in 2 or 3 years time. Have owned it for 10 years.


brillomaster

1,880 posts

200 months

Monday 18th May
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If you dont play the game then you're just wasting money.

2017 bmw 120d + 2016 range rover = £990 road tax.
2016 bmw 120d + 2017 range rover = £235 road tax.

Of course if your pcp deal is already £700 a month its of little consequence, but for those who buy cars outright, its a decent chunk of change.

Doofus

34,464 posts

203 months

Monday 18th May
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It doesn't affect my buying, but I did SORN two cars on March 28th, and then retax them on 31st to get eleven months at £450-odd rather than the £700+ they rose to on Apil 1st.

Mr Tidy

31,569 posts

157 months

Monday 18th May
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It obviously doesn't seem to be a factor for me as I paid £760 in February for my fun car and £430 in March for my daily driver. frown

But it seems absurd for someone who is retired and does less than 10,000 miles a year to have to pay that much, it's a price I'll reluctantly pay to have what I want.