Apple time and location
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IJWS15

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2,152 posts

110 months

Friday 15th May
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We checked into a hotel in France a couple of hours ago and both my wife’s iPad and my iPad seem to think they are in Beijing and time was initially counting from 0000. Setting time to manual and Paris gives us the right time but resetting to auto and it goes back.

Our iPhones are not affected!

Any ideas?

KennyN

63 posts

299 months

Friday 15th May
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Have you connected to the hotel Wi-Fi? If so, they may have a Chinese router?

IJWS15

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2,152 posts

110 months

Friday 15th May
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Maybe but just connected my iPhone to the WiFi and it still has the correct time/timezone.

KennyN

63 posts

299 months

Friday 15th May
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Strange, the only other thing that comes to mind would be if you are using a VPN that may be causing some confusion.

IJWS15

Original Poster:

2,152 posts

110 months

Friday 15th May
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Google maps shows the device is in China. Hotel have no idea and no access to reset the WiFi server.

IJWS15

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2,152 posts

110 months

Friday 15th May
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No VPN

butchstewie

64,832 posts

235 months

Friday 15th May
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If it only does it on hotel wifi it sounds like their public IP address is in some geo-location database as China.

Nothing sinister.

Hopefully biggrin

KennyN

63 posts

299 months

Friday 15th May
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As first suspected, a Chinese router reporting back to the Motherland phone

IJWS15

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110 months

Friday 15th May
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Oddly just tried an old iPad (carried because it has a game app on it which is no longer available) and it is not affected. It thinks, correctly, that it is in Doubs.

Hotel is one of the Accor chain.

IJWS15

Original Poster:

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110 months

Friday 15th May
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iPads are all WiFi only.

IJWS15

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110 months

Saturday 16th May
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Normal service restored this morning using hotel WiFi. Don’t appear to be any lingering issues !

cobra kid

5,521 posts

265 months

Tuesday
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IJWS15 said:
iPads are all WiFi only.
Apart from the cellular ones?

Magic919

14,248 posts

226 months

Tuesday
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cobra kid said:
IJWS15 said:
iPads are all WiFi only.
Apart from the cellular ones?
The ones the OP is discussing are WiFi. Cellular ones are available.

IJWS15

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2,152 posts

110 months

Tuesday
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Wife’s iPad did it again today, public WiFi in a coffee shop in Epagny.

Corso Marche

1,871 posts

226 months

Tuesday
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Your particular models of iPad do not have GPS chips or cellular modems.

Their only method of location ID is via the IP address or end point where their internet connection routes "out" onto the internet.

That's why you will see different locations. It's all dependent on the WiFi network you are connected to, and where that particular network is connecting out onto the big ol' internet.

You've no control over someone else's WiFi or their network gear and configuration.

cobra kid

5,521 posts

265 months

Yesterday (07:36)
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Magic919 said:
cobra kid said:
IJWS15 said:
iPads are all WiFi only.
Apart from the cellular ones?
The ones the OP is discussing are WiFi. Cellular ones are available.
Realised after...oops.

OutInTheShed

13,601 posts

51 months

Yesterday (10:40)
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Corso Marche said:
Your particular models of iPad do not have GPS chips or cellular modems.

Their only method of location ID is via the IP address or end point where their internet connection routes "out" onto the internet.

That's why you will see different locations. It's all dependent on the WiFi network you are connected to, and where that particular network is connecting out onto the big ol' internet.

You've no control over someone else's WiFi or their network gear and configuration.
That is not the whole story.
Apple devices have ability to estimate their location from 'seeing' the wifi of other Apple devices.

So I can take my non-cellular ancient ipad to a different village and it will know roughly where it is.
With a few houses around, it's hard to tell the ipad doesn't have GPS.

Corso Marche

1,871 posts

226 months

Yesterday (16:07)
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OutInTheShed said:
That is not the whole story.
Apple devices have ability to estimate their location from 'seeing' the wifi of other Apple devices.

So I can take my non-cellular ancient ipad to a different village and it will know roughly where it is.
With a few houses around, it's hard to tell the ipad doesn't have GPS.
True, but of no consequence to the OP in his circumstances.
His devices are simply returning a location based on an exit IP address.
There's nothing more to it in his circumstances.