T212 SIPP anyone?
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OIC

Original Poster:

409 posts

20 months

Tuesday 14th April
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I see T212 are now offering a SIPP product.

Anyone ventured into it?

Good / bad?

alock

4,513 posts

238 months

Tuesday 14th April
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I noticed on Sunday and opened one. All I currently get is this when I try to get beyond the initial screen.


Simpo Two

92,222 posts

292 months

Tuesday 14th April
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'To ensure a seamless experience we're rolling out SIPP accounts gradually...'

Sounds so much more cuddly than 'We've got a technical problem'...

C69

1,206 posts

39 months

Tuesday 14th April
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It has certainly taken a while. According to this article, T212 originally planned to launch its SIPP in early 2021: https://www.ft.com/content/2c3f5752-0c9a-409d-a65c...

No mention of SIPPs yet on T212's homepage, but a new SIPP category has already been added to the Help Centre.

EastStand

281 posts

109 months

Wednesday 15th April
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Not for me.

It looks like 212 are just providing the platform and the SIPP itself is held and administered by Gaudi Regulated Services, whoever they are. Gaudi charge an operator fee of approx £75 to £100.


Mr Pointy

13,199 posts

186 months

Wednesday 15th April
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What is the advantage of using a new, untried product over Vanguard/AJ Bell/II/numerous others?

BAMoFo

1,094 posts

283 months

Wednesday 15th April
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^^^ Some people may already be using their App for ISAs and/or share dealing and want the convenience of keeping everything in one place. Others may have fallen for the advertisements.

tele_lover

2,736 posts

42 months

Friday 17th April
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Mr Pointy said:
What is the advantage of using a new, untried product over Vanguard/AJ Bell/II/numerous others?
T212 have zero fees

And it's not a product, just a platform.

Mr Pointy

13,199 posts

186 months

Friday 17th April
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tele_lover said:
Mr Pointy said:
What is the advantage of using a new, untried product over Vanguard/AJ Bell/II/numerous others?
T212 have zero fees
But not zero costs - in fact, you probably don't know what it costs you.

vindaloo79

1,226 posts

107 months

Friday 17th April
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Does anyone here have a sipp that allows out of hours trading of us products.

I use IBKR for everything else which is amazing (prices, time, products, fees, commission, options).

My sipp is a 2 bit operation in comparison.

ferret50

2,812 posts

36 months

Friday 17th April
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I was a big fan of T212, but fell out with them early this year when they tried to force me into an app only method of trading.

I'm afraid that attempting to trade whilst holding a chocolate bar and peering through a letter box is not for me!

All my self-trade stuff is now with Interactive Investor, who seamlessly transfered my T212 S&S ISA.

OIC

Original Poster:

409 posts

20 months

Friday 17th April
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T212 is quick and dirty but is OK if you are aware of that.

They don't have the market access that some of the bigger boys have, which can make them a bit crap at things like fast buys and sells or 24hr trading.

They are also at the mercy of their 'intermediaries' so can be unable to let you buy some stocks for no apparent reason for indefinite periods of time (see Fatpipe for an example).

Not sure why they didn't like your browser but I have to do a video every 2 weeks or so to get them to 'trust' mine.

Also use the app but prefer the full desktop view on my laptop.

SIPP could be interesting but it's all about the charges and Fx rates if you're going outside UK markets.

I'll certainly be looking into setting one up when they are fully online with it.

Simpo Two

92,222 posts

292 months

Friday 17th April
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OIC said:
I have to do a video every 2 weeks or so to get them to 'trust' mine.
'Do a video'? Sounds more like TikTok than a platform!

ferret50

2,812 posts

36 months

Saturday 18th April
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Simpo Two said:
OIC said:
I have to do a video every 2 weeks or so to get them to 'trust' mine.
'Do a video'? Sounds more like TikTok than a platform!
This was the crux of my issues with them, no camara on my laptop and they refused to use my clever phone for it!

Simpo Two

92,222 posts

292 months

Saturday 18th April
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ferret50 said:
This was the crux of my issues with them, no camara on my laptop and they refused to use my clever phone for it!
Dear god, do they want investors or performing seals?!

Never mind, work with it... maybe if you sang a little song they'd give you another 1% nuts

OIC

Original Poster:

409 posts

20 months

Saturday 18th April
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It's standard ID software for financial accounts - same as your bank would require.

Easy to get a plug in USB camera for the laptop.

Has to be done on the computer that you want them to trust as they then place a piece of code on it to allow access.

I'm quite happy that they do this, as I play with sufficient amounts of money that it would upset me quite a lot to get it stolen by a hacker.

2FA activated as well.

anonymous-user

81 months

Tuesday 9th June
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Received the message that my application was completed and I could log in. Seems identical to the s&a isa, the tax relief takes a few weeks.

OIC

Original Poster:

409 posts

20 months

Wednesday 10th June
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Chucked £10 to open my account.

I'll take a closer look at the t&c later.

Noticed they casually stated 'you can fund you SIPP via you ISA account instantly' in the blurb.

Gotta love T212.

Matt p

1,118 posts

235 months

Thursday 11th June
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Same as above, I received the notice to activate.

Chucked £25 in to get going.

Has anyone read the T+C s about pension transfers in?, I ve a pension abroad that cannot be moved for two years but when the time comes I d be open to putting in here to have a little more control over it.

Edit to add - the fund charge of 0.15% while low, I checked against the charge of the fund that I can select through my employer which is 0.02%. Will delve further to see what else is available.

Edited by Matt p on Thursday 11th June 09:44

Simpo Two

92,222 posts

292 months

Thursday 11th June
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Matt p said:
Same as above, I received the notice to activate.

Chucked £25 in to get going.

Has anyone read the T+C s about pension transfers in?, I ve a pension abroad that cannot be moved for two years but when the time comes I d be open to putting in here to have a little more control over it.

Edit to add - the fund charge of 0.15% while low, I checked against the charge of the fund that I can select through my employer which is 0.02%. Will delve further to see what else is available.
But is it the same fund? The one that costs 0.15% more only has to perform 0.14% better than the 0.02% one and you're ahead...

How much is 0.13% of £25 anyway?!