Repair or replace?

[Bob2611]

I am fairly new to cars so I apologise in advance if my questions seem obvious or illogical. Thank you in advance for any advice offered.

I am trying to repair my skoda kodiaq 2019. It ha so has a front side collision.

I need to replace the headlamp but I noticed that lug with the hole in the plastic chassis which the head lamp attaches to is snapped off. I don't have it otherwise I could have glued it back on.

I didn't know if there was some way to glue or weld on another lug or if I needed to change the whole radiator support panel

I enclose a pic of the car and a parts diagram.

[Andy 308GTB]

Does this help?
https://ebay.us/m/yXru0O

[Bob2611]

Andy 308GTB said:

Does this help?
https://ebay.us/m/yXru0O

Thank you. I did see this, but I couldn't figure out what it would attach to?

[Bob2611]

Bob2611 said:

Andy 308GTB said:

Does this help?
https://ebay.us/m/yXru0O

Thank you. I did see this, but I couldn't figure out what it would attach to?

That appears to the outer one. The inner one is 565 998 226 a. Trying to find some info on it

Edited by Bob2611 on Wednesday 8th April 07:21

[E-bmw]

I can't really see from your pic what isn't there, so can't be specific, but in a general answer to your question, if you have the other side to compare it to, plastic welding is quite a simple solution to missing/broken plastic parts.

[Bob2611]

E-bmw said:

I can't really see from your pic what isn't there, so can't be specific, but in a general answer to your question, if you have the other side to compare it to, plastic welding is quite a simple solution to missing/broken plastic parts.

Hi. Here is a pic of what should be there. There is a bolt missing. I am not sure the parts listed will fix this. I think they are for the headlamp side. Any advice is appreciated

[E-bmw]

Bob2611 said:

E-bmw said:

I can't really see from your pic what isn't there, so can't be specific, but in a general answer to your question, if you have the other side to compare it to, plastic welding is quite a simple solution to missing/broken plastic parts.

Hi. Here is a pic of what should be there. There is a bolt missing. I am not sure the parts listed will fix this. I think they are for the headlamp side. Any advice is appreciated

OK, I see what you are trying to replace/repair now, and yes, it can be welded with plastic to replace that tab, with a captive nut added to bolt the light assembly onto.

Without seeing the headlight bracket also it is impossible to tell, having said that it certainly looks like the repair part could be for the headlight itself.

[Bob2611]

E-bmw said:

Bob2611 said:

E-bmw said:

I can't really see from your pic what isn't there, so can't be specific, but in a general answer to your question, if you have the other side to compare it to, plastic welding is quite a simple solution to missing/broken plastic parts.

Hi. Here is a pic of what should be there. There is a bolt missing. I am not sure the parts listed will fix this. I think they are for the headlamp side. Any advice is appreciated

OK, I see what you are trying to replace/repair now, and yes, it can be welded with plastic to replace that tab, with a captive nut added to bolt the light assembly onto.

Without seeing the headlight bracket also it is impossible to tell, having said that it certainly looks like the repair part could be for the headlight itself.

Again, apologies for any stupid questions. Where or how can I weld plastic to this chassis. Do I need a special type of plastic. Is there a kit you can buy? I have a welding gun for the bumper... Will that work?

In assume the nut is melted in if I can out what nut it is. May even buy a repair kit to steal the nut.

I am going to call skoda tomorrow and see if the repair parts are for the lamp or chassis. The fact that it has them on a lamp diagram makes me think it is attached to the lamp.

[E-bmw]

Bob2611 said:

E-bmw said:

Bob2611 said:

E-bmw said:

I can't really see from your pic what isn't there, so can't be specific, but in a general answer to your question, if you have the other side to compare it to, plastic welding is quite a simple solution to missing/broken plastic parts.

Hi. Here is a pic of what should be there. There is a bolt missing. I am not sure the parts listed will fix this. I think they are for the headlamp side. Any advice is appreciated

OK, I see what you are trying to replace/repair now, and yes, it can be welded with plastic to replace that tab, with a captive nut added to bolt the light assembly onto.

Without seeing the headlight bracket also it is impossible to tell, having said that it certainly looks like the repair part could be for the headlight itself.

Again, apologies for any stupid questions. Where or how can I weld plastic to this chassis. Do I need a special type of plastic. Is there a kit you can buy? I have a welding gun for the bumper... Will that work?

In assume the nut is melted in if I can out what nut it is. May even buy a repair kit to steal the nut.

Plastic welding is most easily achieved by having "spare" bits of the correct plastic to fashion into the missing parts and to allow it to be welded in place.

I have done this with a soldering iron, bits of plastic (as above) and in certain circumstances staples (or similar bits of wire) to add strength.

First fashion a replacement part & use a spire nut or similar to be used for the bolt/screw to fit into.



Then using the iron melt the staples into the joint of the 2 parts.

Then melt the edges of these parts sufficiently along with the spare bits of plastic to add volume/strength where it is needed.

It takes a bit of time but is generally 100% successful and good access definitely helps, so removing the parts will make it easier if access is difficult.

[stevemcs]

You could try q bond, however you will probably find it better to replace it.

Oh and wear gloves …. It can stick your fingers together…… just saying

[E-bmw]

stevemcs said:

You could try q bond, however you will probably find it better to replace it.

Oh and wear gloves . It can stick your fingers together just saying

Q-bond is fantastic, but I don't think he has the missing part.

ETA.
Although, since using Q-bond & experimenting, I have found that just normal superglue & either plastic "filings" or plastic powder (used for hot dipping) works just as well.

[Bob2611]

Is there any resin or epoxy putty I could mould and attach to the part?

[stevemcs]

So are you after item 32 ? That looks like a headlamp bracket repair kit

You may find the radiator panel reasonably priced

[E-bmw]

Bob2611 said:

Is there any resin or epoxy putty I could mould and attach to the part?

I would say epoxy is not up to that task, at least not for long.

[Bob2611]

Does anyone know if epoxy putty would work here?

I also have a separate stream of thought. The front may to come off anyway to realign the car and fix the wheel strut etc

How do people feel about an aftermarket part for the radiator support panel. Would mechanics tolerate this or try and buy a secondhand one or new oem (for this part in particular)