Parking during restricted parking period
Discussion
A driver has picked up a NTK from UKPC for parking during restricted parking period, see below.
Surely we should be able to fight this as the driver has not been identified and there cannot be a contract to park, once outside of the permitted parking period.
Entrance
Signage
Car park owner can't be identified, and retail managers don't know who owns the car park.
Surely we should be able to fight this as the driver has not been identified and there cannot be a contract to park, once outside of the permitted parking period.
Entrance
Signage
Car park owner can't be identified, and retail managers don't know who owns the car park.
Mammasaid said:
A driver has picked up a NTK from UKPC for parking during restricted parking period, see below.
Surely we should be able to fight this as the driver has not been identified and there cannot be a contract to park, once outside of the permitted parking period.
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So to be clear, you parked "outside the permitted parking period" when the signage clearly states "No parking between the hours 22:30 and 06:00."?Surely we should be able to fight this as the driver has not been identified and there cannot be a contract to park, once outside of the permitted parking period.
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And what is your mitigation?
Sebring440 said:
Mammasaid said:
A driver has picked up a NTK from UKPC for parking during restricted parking period, see below.
Surely we should be able to fight this as the driver has not been identified and there cannot be a contract to park, once outside of the permitted parking period.
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So to be clear, you parked "outside the permitted parking period" when the signage clearly states "No parking between the hours 22:30 and 06:00."?Surely we should be able to fight this as the driver has not been identified and there cannot be a contract to park, once outside of the permitted parking period.
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And what is your mitigation?
Mammasaid said:
Sebring440 said:
Mammasaid said:
A driver has picked up a NTK from UKPC for parking during restricted parking period, see below.
Surely we should be able to fight this as the driver has not been identified and there cannot be a contract to park, once outside of the permitted parking period.
]
So to be clear, you parked "outside the permitted parking period" when the signage clearly states "No parking between the hours 22:30 and 06:00."?Surely we should be able to fight this as the driver has not been identified and there cannot be a contract to park, once outside of the permitted parking period.
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And what is your mitigation?
Mammasaid said:
No, the driver (and it was not me) did and I'm not asking for mitigation, more that I am loath to give these low lifes a single penny of my hard earned and am asking how I could achieve this on behalf of the driver.
Why the name calling?Perhaps the driver should not have parked there?
Mammasaid said:
A driver has picked up a NTK from UKPC for parking during restricted parking period, see below.
Surely we should be able to fight this as the driver has not been identified and there cannot be a contract to park, once outside of the permitted parking period.
Why do you think this is a contract issue? The signage makes it clear that no parking is permitted from 22.30 to whenever. You parked there after 22.30. You were trespassing. Surely we should be able to fight this as the driver has not been identified and there cannot be a contract to park, once outside of the permitted parking period.
Or “your friend” was.
OldGermanHeaps said:
And what loss was incurred because of this?
Who TF knows? There’s probably an argument over what the loss should be. The land owner will say it is the value of a notional permission to enter the land outside the offered terms. Ie £100. I’m sure the OP could come up with some counter arguments. For his friend, obviously. Who also may or may not have been driving the car and may or may not have been trespassing. That caveat always gives the whole thing a nice shiny finish.
Mammasaid said:
Please, spare me the moral high ground that some of you are sitting on. I'm just trying to help the driver for the heinous 'crime' of entering a free car park and parking for 23 minutes.
Given the no parking times which are pretty clear genuinely no idea how any mitigation is actually possible.I suppose you could try the emergency visit to a pharmacist routine. I think the only practical “ help “ you can give the driver is to suggest they read the whole sign next time .
BlackTails said:
But it isn t a car park between 22.30 and 6.00. It s closed.
I think everyone is in agreement that this is "private land".Is the contract enforceable only in the designated hours or is it 24/7? And does it even need to be a car park, for the contract to be enforceable? Clearly, the land and its physical structures are unchanged from 22:59 to 23:01 (we don't know about a barrier, but let's assume that there is none, since the OP - or his driver - were able to exit) and one could accurately describe it as a 'closed car park' but it is still a 'car park'.
BlackTails said:
RSTurboPaul said:
Did they park or did they drive continuously round in circles without stopping between the entry and exit pictures? 
Wouldn t matter though. What that approach would appear to create is a 'No entry' restriction during the hours set out as a 'no parking' period, if one was not even permitted to enter, read the signs within a reasonable time, then circulate and exit.
Bill said:
Who actually reads the signs in every car park they go to?)
People who don’t get an invoice 
I drive a Ford Ranger and I always read the T&C top to bottom as there’s often a weight limit.
Mind, the throwback weight limit is often 1.8 tonnes, which excludes nearly all family size modern cars.
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