Koran burner wins landmark blasphemy case
Koran burner wins landmark blasphemy case
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butchstewie

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64,160 posts

233 months

Friday 27th February
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I could have sworn there was a thread on this but I can't find it.

TL:DR man burns Koran gets stabbed, guy who stabs him gets suspended sentence, Koran burners conviction gets overturned, CPS appeal and lose.

Koran burner wins landmark blasphemy case

Right decision IMO.

oddman

3,867 posts

275 months

Friday 27th February
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Agree

Blasphemy is a victimless crime

Cold

16,403 posts

113 months

Friday 27th February
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oddman said:
Agree

Blasphemy is a victimless crime
It's not even a crime.

BikeBikeBIke

13,485 posts

138 months

Friday 27th February
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The original charge is even more bewildering: "Mr Coskun was originally charged by the CPS with harassing the “religious institution of Islam”."

I'm pretty slow to call for resignations but for the CPS to bust a gut over this is incomprehensible. Whoever thought this appeal was a good idea needs to go ASAP.

grumbledoak

32,363 posts

256 months

Friday 27th February
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Good. It's not a crime. It should not be a crime. He should not have been charged. It should not have been appealed

And yes whoever was responsible, if you can find anyone admitting such - should be thrown on his sword.

E34-3.2

1,018 posts

102 months

Friday 27th February
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Burning a Quran is not (should not) be blasphemous according to Islam.
Let's not forget that the third Kalif Uthman burned all the copies of the Quran which did not fit his narrative ("non conforming") during his lifetime.


Richard-390a0

3,259 posts

114 months

Friday 27th February
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butchstewie said:
I could have sworn there was a thread on this but I can't find it.
There was I remember reading it.

chemistry

3,104 posts

132 months

Friday 27th February
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butchstewie said:
I could have sworn there was a thread on this but I can't find it.

TL:DR man burns Koran gets stabbed, guy who stabs him gets suspended sentence, Koran burners conviction gets overturned, CPS appeal and lose.

Koran burner wins landmark blasphemy case

Right decision IMO.
Agreed; the correct decision. Sad that it took such a protracted process to get there.

ukwill

9,942 posts

230 months

Friday 27th February
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E34-3.2 said:
Burning a Quran is not (should not) be blasphemous according to Islam.
Let's not forget that the third Kalif Uthman burned all the copies of the Quran which did not fit his narrative ("non conforming") during his lifetime.
I mean who could forget that?

ukwill

9,942 posts

230 months

Friday 27th February
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This whole thing stinks of Hermer.

BikeBikeBIke

13,485 posts

138 months

Friday 27th February
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ukwill said:
I mean who could forget that?
I confess it had momentarily slipped my mind.

Gargamel

16,104 posts

284 months

Friday 27th February
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Richard-390a0 said:
butchstewie said:
I could have sworn there was a thread on this but I can't find it.
There was I remember reading it.
Yeah we burned it a while ago

gregs656

12,082 posts

204 months

Friday 27th February
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This is the right decision.

Britain is being far too slow on some of this stuff.

Gareth79

8,720 posts

269 months

Friday 27th February
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chemistry said:
butchstewie said:
I could have sworn there was a thread on this but I can't find it.

TL:DR man burns Koran gets stabbed, guy who stabs him gets suspended sentence, Koran burners conviction gets overturned, CPS appeal and lose.

Koran burner wins landmark blasphemy case

Right decision IMO.
Agreed; the correct decision. Sad that it took such a protracted process to get there.
On the other hand, it has set some good case law which others will find useful in the future.

In reading the previous judgment though, it was significant that it was outside an embassy:

"A protest outside someone’s home or a place of worship might well create an anticipation that those who witness it may feel vulnerable and, very easily, become harassed, alarmed or distressed. A protest outside a secure and recognised location for such activities, less so. "

MKnight702

3,350 posts

237 months

Friday 27th February
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Cold said:
oddman said:
Agree

Blasphemy is a victimless crime
It's not even a crime.
Absolutely, criticism of an idea is not, and should never be, a crime. The CPS tying themselves in knots to try and make it one is very worrying.

JagLover

45,921 posts

258 months

Friday 27th February
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Cold said:
It's not even a crime.
Probably soon will be if Labour get their anti-blasphemy law through under the pretence of tackling "Islamophobia".

scenario8

7,593 posts

202 months

Friday 27th February
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This is the thread.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Absolutely terrible that this saga got legs. In the (admittedly infinitesimally unlikely) alternative World where I found myself in this chap’s position I suspect my chances of funding a robust defence would be close to zero. So good for him, but what a concerning approach taken by the authorities.