Coors to close cornish doom bar brewery
Discussion
Goodbye Doom Bar...
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2026/feb/25/doom-...
Reason to avoid Staropramen, Carling and Coors,?
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2026/feb/25/doom-...
Reason to avoid Staropramen, Carling and Coors,?
I appreciate it s very easy to point a finger and moan at a (foreign) large owner but is there a strong business case for the brewery? I certainly don t know and the Guardian report makes no representation beyond the brewer s comments that the operation isn t viable. Does anyone know better?
Don t misinterpret my comments, this news brings me no joy but I can appreciate costs in the UK are massive these days. Maybe in this environment the current owners just can t make it work.
The closure of the call centre is also sad news but, again, I can see how an owner would be drawn to lowering costs as part of a modernisation programme.
Sad news.
Edited due to crazy iPad autofilling. Absolutely crazy.
Don t misinterpret my comments, this news brings me no joy but I can appreciate costs in the UK are massive these days. Maybe in this environment the current owners just can t make it work.
The closure of the call centre is also sad news but, again, I can see how an owner would be drawn to lowering costs as part of a modernisation programme.
Sad news.
Edited due to crazy iPad autofilling. Absolutely crazy.
I suspect they will just move all of Sharps beer production to the Burton upon Trent brewery they already own.
It will be far more cost effective and require less staff, ultimately this will result in bigger profit which is all the matters once the big companies like Coors, Inbev and Carlsberg own most of the beer brands in the UK.
It will be far more cost effective and require less staff, ultimately this will result in bigger profit which is all the matters once the big companies like Coors, Inbev and Carlsberg own most of the beer brands in the UK.
scenario8 said:
I appreciate it s very easy to point a finger and moan at a (foreign) large owner but is there a strong business case for the brewery? I certainly don t know and the Guardian report makes no representation beyond the brewer s comments that the operation isn t viable. Does anyone know better?
The company's wording is quite specific "the site is no longer financially sustainable as part of our national production network" which is quite different to the brewery not being viable.My guess is they just want to brew it somewhere more convenient.
Gareth79 said:
scenario8 said:
I appreciate it s very easy to point a finger and moan at a (foreign) large owner but is there a strong business case for the brewery? I certainly don t know and the Guardian report makes no representation beyond the brewer s comments that the operation isn t viable. Does anyone know better?
The company's wording is quite specific "the site is no longer financially sustainable as part of our national production network" which is quite different to the brewery not being viable.My guess is they just want to brew it somewhere more convenient.
I understand others will have strong and likely alternative views to mine. Cask ale tends to draw strong opinions.
RichFN2 said:
I suspect they will just move all of Sharps beer production to the Burton upon Trent brewery they already own.
It will be far more cost effective and require less staff, ultimately this will result in bigger profit which is all the matters once the big companies like Coors, Inbev and Carlsberg own most of the beer brands in the UK.
They've been brewing it in Burton-on-Trent since 2013, which, I suspect, is why the Cornish site is "unviable".It will be far more cost effective and require less staff, ultimately this will result in bigger profit which is all the matters once the big companies like Coors, Inbev and Carlsberg own most of the beer brands in the UK.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-331...
silentbrown said:
They've been brewing it in Burton-on-Trent since 2013, which, I suspect, is why the Cornish site is "unviable".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-331...
Except the proper cask stuff, which is made down here in Rock. Everything else brewed in Burton is total rubbish, should be called something else, it’s a completely different beer. This is bad news, us locals simply won’t drink it in the pubs, because it will be crap. Good news for proper local brewers such as St Austell / Skinners I suppose. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-331...
It’s cyclical. Happened before, will happen again. The good news is there are plenty of smallish local indie brewers down here. In fact I was drinking one from my local brewery in my local pub this evening.
It’s not just beer either, Cornwall and Devon have been major players in the craft spirits revolution of the last few years, esp in the gins and rums.
It’s not just beer either, Cornwall and Devon have been major players in the craft spirits revolution of the last few years, esp in the gins and rums.
troika said:
Except the proper cask stuff, which is made down here in Rock. Everything else brewed in Burton is total rubbish, should be called something else, it s a completely different beer. This is bad news, us locals simply won t drink it in the pubs, because it will be crap. Good news for proper local brewers such as St Austell / Skinners I suppose.
Can’t taste the same if they’re using a totally different water source , was involved in a brewery move once and using the same water was top criteria.DeejRC said:
It s cyclical. Happened before, will happen again. The good news is there are plenty of smallish local indie brewers down here. In fact I was drinking one from my local brewery in my local pub this evening.
It s not just beer either, Cornwall and Devon have been major players in the craft spirits revolution of the last few years, esp in the gins and rums.
There’s a lot of change happening these days, in whisky there is big cuts happening and a lot of the new distilleries will likely close. The majors are also being hit with the changing demand for alcohol. It s not just beer either, Cornwall and Devon have been major players in the craft spirits revolution of the last few years, esp in the gins and rums.
greygoose said:
Just another massive corporation shutting down a smaller company and cutting jobs. When the jobs are gone who will have the money to buy stuff?
I used to take that view but the truth is no one forced the original owners to sell to the big corporation and they sell with the knowledge that the people that helped them build the company into a position where it can be sold for big bucks will be on far shakier ground job security wise.Look at the amount of people that were only too willing to sell their granny to the Chinese when they started buying equipment and knowledge. That's why i have zero sympathy for the kicking the German car industry is about to get from the Chinese and the kicking western manufacturing has had already, all sane washed with the "globalism" mantra and we in the UK are probably one of the worst.
Yes, we have outsourced manufacturing to China
But also the pollution, the noise, the shorter life expectancy that comes with heavy industry.
A brewery isn't a charity. If market forces want the brewery to stay in Cornwall, then the price simply needs to increase to cover costs.
If demand won't support it? Then its gone. PH is often in favour of marketing forces, and this doesn't seem to be a public good or market failure that needs government correction.
Ultimately I think most of the uk's, Germany's industry is on borrowed time due to the high differential in energy costs as well as labour costs generally. Skilled workers and innovation can only justify a premium so far, and the Chinese are catching up quickly / have caught up in many areas.
And as for energy, i still talk to people who hark back to coal as our go-to fix, but who wants a coal plant in their town? Who wants their dad/ brother / son down a pit, dying in their early 60s? (Average age of death for coal mines was 59-62)
Of course it leaves the question: what does Britain do then? And i have no idea, but if the uk wants to race back to the 1950s it needs to understand the costs.
But also the pollution, the noise, the shorter life expectancy that comes with heavy industry.
A brewery isn't a charity. If market forces want the brewery to stay in Cornwall, then the price simply needs to increase to cover costs.
If demand won't support it? Then its gone. PH is often in favour of marketing forces, and this doesn't seem to be a public good or market failure that needs government correction.
Ultimately I think most of the uk's, Germany's industry is on borrowed time due to the high differential in energy costs as well as labour costs generally. Skilled workers and innovation can only justify a premium so far, and the Chinese are catching up quickly / have caught up in many areas.
And as for energy, i still talk to people who hark back to coal as our go-to fix, but who wants a coal plant in their town? Who wants their dad/ brother / son down a pit, dying in their early 60s? (Average age of death for coal mines was 59-62)
Of course it leaves the question: what does Britain do then? And i have no idea, but if the uk wants to race back to the 1950s it needs to understand the costs.
HiAsAKite said:
Goodbye Doom Bar...
https://www.theguardian.com/food/2026/feb/25/doom-...
Reason to avoid Staropramen, Carling and Coors,?
ha! like a reason is needed. https://www.theguardian.com/food/2026/feb/25/doom-...
Reason to avoid Staropramen, Carling and Coors,?
fttm said:
troika said:
Except the proper cask stuff, which is made down here in Rock. Everything else brewed in Burton is total rubbish, should be called something else, it s a completely different beer. This is bad news, us locals simply won t drink it in the pubs, because it will be crap. Good news for proper local brewers such as St Austell / Skinners I suppose.
Can t taste the same if they re using a totally different water source , was involved in a brewery move once and using the same water was top criteria.I guess Coors won’t be piping the water to Burton like Guinness do to Dublin…
Edited by Square Leg on Thursday 26th February 07:48
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