Ajax alarm
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dave7108

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307 posts

176 months

Tuesday 17th February
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Can anyone with one of these systems advise if the sensor below needs another sensor to make "the beam" up. I want to protect a bifold 3m door. So would I need just one of these sensors?

Thanks


Jayyy

275 posts

220 months

Tuesday 17th February
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I've got an Ajax system and have been looking into the external curtain sensors - I haven't got around to getting any fitted yet, but my understanding is that you only need the one sensor to cover your chosen area i.e. a run of bi-folds or a set of sliding doors etc.

Condi

19,538 posts

193 months

dave7108

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307 posts

176 months

Tuesday 17th February
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That's great just what I need to cover my patio doors.

dave7108

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307 posts

176 months

Tuesday 17th February
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As a side note where would be best to mount the base station? I currently have a switch in the loft for the CCTV etc so at the moment I've put it there. The bonus of having it somewhere downstairs I guess is the added bonus of an alarm although I do have the wireless sounder as well.
Can someone smash the box and disable it? It does have ethernet and 2g connection.

silentbrown

10,376 posts

138 months

Tuesday 17th February
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Ajax stuff looks good, but can you actually buy it directly?

dave7108

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307 posts

176 months

Wednesday
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There is plenty of it on eBay and Amazon. Unsure about actual websites

Condi

19,538 posts

193 months

Wednesday
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You could, ahem, create a company invoice and register on somewhere like CCTVDirect as an installer.

Voguely

389 posts

180 months

Wednesday
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I managed to buy a whole system online, although couldn't source everything I needed from a single supplier, so ended up getting various components from two or three places in the end. Once you have them though, the actual installation is pretty straightforward.

A good tip I got from a security contact was to use their external sirens (they are called 'street siren') indoors if you want something loud enough to really deter someone inside. The internal sirens aren't that loud (max 105db), but the external ones are much louder (117db). They are physically larger, but otherwise no reason not to put them internally. I've got a couple fitted in key areas of the house. Hopefully in the event of a break-in they might have some effect on how long someone would want to be hanging about with 117db going off in the room with them (before someone says they can be smashed, I've mounted them on a double-height ceiling, so well out of reach of someone unless they have a ladder). Note the external ones don't give you the 'beeping' countdown of arming the system in an entrance in the way the internal ones do though, so you might also one 1 x internal siren to have near the door to give you that countdown tones.

silentbrown

10,376 posts

138 months

Wednesday
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Voguely said:
I managed to buy a whole system online, although couldn't source everything I needed from a single supplier, so ended up getting various components from two or three places in the end. Once you have them though, the actual installation is pretty straightforward.
Most of the Amazon sellers seem to be from Italy. Is getting support an issue? No restrictions on access to the configuration/management apps?

Voguely

389 posts

180 months

Wednesday
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silentbrown said:
Most of the Amazon sellers seem to be from Italy. Is getting support an issue? No restrictions on access to the configuration/management apps?
Thankfully I've not needed support to date, but configuration of the 'baseline' range is open through the Ajax app. You only have issues if you get the Superior kit, which is much more locked-down without an approved installer account.

I got most of my bits through 'the cctv store' and 'cctv centre' websites. Both seem happy to sell to retail customers.

dave7108

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307 posts

176 months

Wednesday
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Is there any pricing difference between eBay and Amazon sellers and CCTV direct etc? I found the kit on eBay very reasonably priced. It's a good system and that's coming from a texecom system user. The texecom was great but complicated to set up for a DIYer and time consuming. It's quite nice to get something and it just all works instantly.
I'm very impressed by the speed that the devices ping the box. I've had a Yale alarm while back that was crud. You could literally burgle the house before it set off.
Does anyone know what type of wireless system it uses?
Only downside is the detectors are a little pricey.

silentbrown

10,376 posts

138 months

Thursday
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Voguely said:
Thankfully I've not needed support to date, but configuration of the 'baseline' range is open through the Ajax app. You only have issues if you get the Superior kit, which is much more locked-down without an approved installer account.
Ta. We've got Google Nest Protect smoke/CO alarms here, and they're discontinued so basically scrap in a few years time. Ajax Fireprotect could fit the bill.

Condi

19,538 posts

193 months

Thursday
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dave7108 said:
Is there any pricing difference between eBay and Amazon sellers and CCTV direct etc? .
No idea what Amazon or eBay sellers are asking but this is "official" pricing.


Voguely

389 posts

180 months

Thursday
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Yes, looks about right.

dave7108

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307 posts

176 months

How are people attaching the door contacts? I'm going into Birmingham fold metal doors so unsure to drill or use a dab of ct1 on the bracket. Unsure on velcro as can fall off. Or maybe some of those strong 3m picture hanging velcro things.

neth27

478 posts

139 months

I’m sure they come supplied with double sided tape.

Voguely

389 posts

180 months

Yesterday (04:16)
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neth27 said:
I m sure they come supplied with double sided tape.
They do, however, that is supposed to be only used to position the sensor whilst you drill pilot holes to then screw them into a frame, and then remove the tape. Being attached with the double sided tape which is a bit spongey may reduce the ability of the sensor to pick up vibrations if you want to use the 'shock' sensing ability.

If your bifolds are aluminium framed you could probably still screw a steel screw into them i suspect. If wood then easier still.

carbonblack

320 posts

179 months

Yesterday (08:01)
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Where Are people buying the components/kit from?

I was looking ages ago but gave up because it was all ‘trade only’

Do you need any wires installed or is it all pretty much wireless?

TIA

neth27

478 posts

139 months

Yesterday (08:53)
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Voguely said:
They do, however, that is supposed to be only used to position the sensor whilst you drill pilot holes to then screw them into a frame, and then remove the tape. Being attached with the double sided tape which is a bit spongey may reduce the ability of the sensor to pick up vibrations if you want to use the 'shock' sensing ability.

If your bifolds are aluminium framed you could probably still screw a steel screw into them i suspect. If wood then easier still.
I’m sure they also come with some self tapping screws which will work on aluminium doors.