RE: BMW M3 CSL | PH Auction Block
RE: BMW M3 CSL | PH Auction Block
Monday 16th February

BMW M3 CSL | PH Auction Block

Two door, six cylinder, track focused M cars are still a thing, but none quite like the CSL...


While circuit-focused M3s existed before 2003 - think GT and Lightweight E36s - as well as after - GTS, most notably - still nothing has quite captured the imagination of M enthusiasts quite in the same way as the CSL. More than 20 years after launch, it has a hold on BMW aficionados like little else. 

The noise of it, obviously, will play a part in the obsession, its legendary S54 never sounding better than when ingesting air for its six throttle bodies through a carbon air box. There’s an argument to say that the CSL is the best-sounding M car ever, and the competition is strong. The design of the CSL, undoubtedly appreciated when new, is now an even greater source of appreciation, given how some subsequent M cars have looked. Nobody, surely, prefers an M4 CSL to an M3 as something to look at, put it that way.

The E46 3 Series was always a handsome car (apart from as a hatchback), and the CSL took the M3’s handsomeness to another level of menace: the ducktail, the wheels and the carbon roof saw to that. The roof was part of an extensive weight-saving campaign that some will tell you the latest generation of M cars need. More than 100kg off a sub-1,500kg car was undoubtedly an impressive feat, and with the incredible response of the engine helped contribute to the feeling of the CSL as a raw, engaging, exciting road racer. Nevertheless, it wasn’t adored when new, for the simple fact that the standard M3 was so good - and the CSL wasn’t quite deemed £20,000 better. 

How times have changed. The rarity factor (with just 422 RHD cars, with the majority grey), the move away from naturally aspirated, rear-wheel drive M cars and the popularity of manual gearbox conversions have really driven up CSL demand in the past decade and a bit. Where once £30k or so would have bought one, now you’re looking at at least twice that for the most famous E46. Or well into six figures, in fact, depending on mileage and condition. 

This PH Auctions lot is notable as one of the black cars - it was also specced from new without the radio for maximum lightweight kudos. It’s been upgraded with AP Racing brakes, too. And if you think the body looks great, wait until you see underneath, because it’s stunning. Work to address the common rear subframe weak spot means the CSL presents perfectly between the driven wheels. The interior is equally pristine, with even the fabrics so susceptible to wear looking barely used. 

Having been in storage for a little while, a service will probably be worthwhile before embarking on any grand road trips. But the seller will have the M3 MOT’d (and any advisory items addressed) prior to handover anyway. After that, the CSL really should be fit for anything, from track to show. It really is an M car experience like no other. 


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Iamnotkloot

1,832 posts

169 months

Monday 16th February
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If only a manual as standard. (And a Honda one rather than a BMW version)

VR6 Eug

Original Poster:

786 posts

221 months

Monday 16th February
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Best looking BMW M car ever made, but I'd like it in Grey please.

dave_white1977

124 posts

21 months

Monday 16th February
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Hi everyone, PistonHeads Auctions consigner here. Great to see the CSL live!
I actually brought this car to market specifically because of its condition. That YouTube video doing the rounds from Redish Motorsport is actually this exact car watching it on the ramp and seeing how pristine the floor and subframe are is what convinced me it was special enough for the PH Auction Block.
It s an incredibly honest example with the right upgrades. Happy to answer any questions!




daveco

4,349 posts

229 months

Monday 16th February
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dave_white1977 said:
Hi everyone, consigner here. Great to see the CSL live!
I actually brought this car to market specifically because of its condition. That YouTube video doing the rounds from Redish Motorsport is actually this exact car watching it on the ramp and seeing how pristine the floor and subframe are is what convinced me it was special enough for the PH Auction Block.
It s an incredibly honest example with the right upgrades. Happy to answer any questions!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTwv0D5bKTU
Why are you selling?

And what, if anything, is replacing it??

JJJ.

4,360 posts

37 months

Monday 16th February
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This article is about selling and getting the very maximum possible price, right? So, it's got to be worth £250k all day long....




Slowlygettingit

861 posts

63 months

Monday 16th February
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I remember selling a house a few years ago and a young couple came to view it in a csl.
They tried haggling on the price but were still quite a bit lower than we were prepared to go to.
I suggested he added the csl in to his offer. His girlfriend was well up for it but neither he nor Mrs SGI were.
Damn shame really.
And if we’d kept the csl (highly unlikely) I’d be quids in now.

GreatScott2016

2,217 posts

110 months

Monday 16th February
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VR6 Eug said:
Best looking BMW M car ever made, but I'd like it in Grey please.
It’s a nice looking car, but I’d argue the original M2 is a better looking car smile

JJJ.

4,360 posts

37 months

Monday 16th February
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GreatScott2016 said:
VR6 Eug said:
Best looking BMW M car ever made, but I'd like it in Grey please.
It s a nice looking car, but I d argue the original M2 is a better looking car smile
The E34 3.6 (in red) gets my vote.

MDMA .

10,048 posts

123 months

Monday 16th February
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dave_white1977 said:
Hi everyone, consigner here. Great to see the CSL live!
I actually brought this car to market specifically because of its condition. That YouTube video doing the rounds from Redish Motorsport is actually this exact car watching it on the ramp and seeing how pristine the floor and subframe are is what convinced me it was special enough for the PH Auction Block.
It s an incredibly honest example with the right upgrades. Happy to answer any questions!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTwv0D5bKTU
Lovely car. But for what you are expecting/people to bid on, I would have replaced the rear centre console with a new one. You can see where a child seat has battered it.
It’s the little details that matter (to me, IMO).
Good luck with the sale though.

MrGeoff

748 posts

194 months

Monday 16th February
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MDMA . said:
Lovely car. But for what you are expecting/people to bid on, I would have replaced the rear centre console with a new one. You can see where a child seat has battered it.
It s the little details that matter (to me, IMO).
Good luck with the sale though.
You only have to look at those rear centre sections and they start peeling, then they crack. That said though, can't deny those young ears the aural bliss from that engine/air box combo.

disco666

511 posts

168 months

Monday 16th February
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This is a great car, but so was the standard version.
These weren't £20k better when new and they're not £20k better now.

Funk

27,277 posts

231 months

Monday 16th February
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VR6 Eug said:
Best looking BMW M car ever made, but I'd like it in Grey please.
Agreed. And same. And with a manual conversion.

There's just something inherently 'right' about the E46 M3 design - without doubt BMW's best imo.

Edited by Funk on Monday 16th February 22:41

Cryssys

795 posts

60 months

Monday 16th February
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Nice car but no gear stick grumpy

Maccmike8

1,539 posts

76 months

Monday 16th February
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Forget 5 stars. This is 10/10. Maybe even 11/10.

birdcage

2,895 posts

227 months

Monday 16th February
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I've owned two plus a standard M3 manual of the same vintage.

The gearbox suits the car, nobody who has owned one has ever sold it because of the gearbox. You just fancy trying different cars.

Best sports car I have ever owned by a country mile.

nismo48

6,204 posts

229 months

Monday 16th February
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MDMA . said:
dave_white1977 said:
Hi everyone, consigner here. Great to see the CSL live!
I actually brought this car to market specifically because of its condition. That YouTube video doing the rounds from Redish Motorsport is actually this exact car watching it on the ramp and seeing how pristine the floor and subframe are is what convinced me it was special enough for the PH Auction Block.
It s an incredibly honest example with the right upgrades. Happy to answer any questions!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTwv0D5bKTU
Lovely car. But for what you are expecting/people to bid on, I would have replaced the rear centre console with a new one. You can see where a child seat has battered it.
It s the little details that matter (to me, IMO).
Good luck with the sale though.
Rusty nuts on the strut brace aside its a lovely car

CG2020UK

2,857 posts

62 months

Monday 16th February
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Small M cars are just special.

Be it this, a 1M or the OG M2.

Great looking car.

Leins

10,160 posts

170 months

Monday 16th February
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JJJ. said:
GreatScott2016 said:
VR6 Eug said:
Best looking BMW M car ever made, but I'd like it in Grey please.
It s a nice looking car, but I d argue the original M2 is a better looking car smile
The E34 3.6 (in red) gets my vote.
Interesting, as I’ve owned both a Silver Grey CSL and a (blue) E34 M5. However, best looking BMW for me is an E30 M3


birdcage said:
I've owned two plus a standard M3 manual of the same vintage.

The gearbox suits the car, nobody who has owned one has ever sold it because of the gearbox. You just fancy trying different cars.
+1

Mr Tidy

29,215 posts

149 months

Monday 16th February
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It's a stunning looking CSL that's for sure!

But I still like a manual gearbox in a fun car and am not a fan of black, especially with a dark interior. Someone on M3cutters was selling an Imola Red manual CS recently which would appeal much more to me as I doubt the weight saving from the carbon roof would make much difference on a road car. And I'm sure it would have been much cheaper.

Although a standard M3 would be thousands cheaper still.

The S54 engine is something really special even in an even cheaper Z4M!

GTRene

20,826 posts

246 months

Monday 16th February
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lovely car and uber clean underside (video)

to my eyes the best looking 3 series M3, although not the lightest and sadly standard not with a manual.

a best looking BMW say from the 70-tish? would for me be the BMW Z3 M models.

from the older models say something like a BMW 507 specially with the hardtop on.